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      I wonder if this will still be true for Democrats when the shoe is on the other foot. They were held together by Pelosi’s skilled hand for twelve years. I think the fundamentals are strong for the Democrats. They care a lot about good governance principles. Ultimately, I think that will keep everyone on the same page. I don’t see any part of the party willing to rock the boat.

      Where I am starting to get worried is with the national debt. The US, China, and many other governments are going to run into both debt issues and an aging population. That will force a reckoning at some point on entitlement spending, which is very popular.

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        The solution to the debt is taxing the rich, and equitably too. They’re going to have to pay double for the amount they’ve stolen from we the people since 1980.

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          That’s going to have to be part of it, but it can’t be all of it. There isn’t enough money in the upper class to take care of all of the debt, and at a certain level of taxation they will just move. I will speak in favor of increasing taxes on around pretty much every individual making over 100k or couple making over 200k. For a single person working 40 hours a week in the US, that is the 77th percentile. My husband and I are in this position and I think starting the additional tax burden with us would be fair.

          I don’t see raising taxes much below us as being very productive, and those “flat tax” people can fuck right off. That group is already paying money into entitlements so the oft repeated statement that half of households pay no income tax is misleading. They’re really struggling right now, so I just don’t see an increase in taxes as productive.

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              The problem with doing that is that people then get more hesitant about putting money into a country. Would you invest in a country if there’s a good chance its leadership is just going to do an about face and tax your wealth into nothing? Take your possessions? It’s part of the reason why many countries struggle to get foreign investment. Their past has caused businesses to have little faith that investments won’t just get nationalized by the government.

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                Yeah, 200k and DINK. I want to have my taxes raised, just as long as others like me also have have their taxes raised.

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        The problem is that eventually, they’ll get someone that just won’t reach across the isle, assuming that this guy isn’t himself the one.

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            You understand how that plays right into the traitor caucus’ hands, right? That’s hardly “fun.”

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                The traitor caucus doesn’t give a flying fuck about other Republicans’ electoral chances. Real damage is done both to all the things managed by the federal government and to the federal workforce itself (in terms of attrition and lower morale) every time the government shuts down. That harm is, in their warped, traitorous worldview, a win.

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    Theatrics. It’s all fake. Shut it all the fuck down. Burn it while you’re at it.