The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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    1 year ago

    Trying to break the walls of their open air prison thats killing everyone inside.

    And bear in mind the reports of torture and rape are just accusations from an occupying military.

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      1 year ago

      Trying to break the walls of their open air prison thats killing everyone inside.

      Hamas murdered 1,200 civilians in Israel.

      If you think that’s just fine in order to reach some abstract goal, you really have no leg to stand on complaining about the IDF killing civilians inside Gaza.

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        1 year ago

        Its abstract to you, because youre not gonna let the plight of gazans be a real thing that matters to you. But its very real, well before this recent assault. A humanitarian crisis for hundreds of thousands of people short on food, water, and shelter due to Israeli military oppression

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          Hamas is not fighting for the “plight of Gazans” - they’re on record saying that the Palestinians are not their responsibility.

          That’s probably why they don’t give a fuck if their rockets detonate and explode in Gaza, killing hundreds of Palestinians. That’s probably why they launch rockets from hospitals and schools. That’s probably why they hide weapons production facilities next to places of worship. That’s probably why they shoot Palestinians who are trying to evacuate. That’s probably why they abduct, imprison, torture and murder Palestinians who they perceive to be enemies. That’s probably why they close down, shutter and burn down Palestinian coffee shops, hotels, shops, water parks, and entertainment venues out of “religious concerns.”

          Really, you’re assuming that Hamas is fighting for the Palestinians, but all evidence points to the exact opposite.

          They’re a terrorist organization that murders people in cold blood, and they rule over Gaza in a reign of terror.

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            1 year ago

            Sorry this is a barrage of accusations i dont have the time to try and dig through myself. I tried searching for them closing down coffee shops and found nothing, and them claiming no responsibility for palestinians and only found an israeli news article. Im dubious of the rest of the claims

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              Sorry this is a barrage of accusations i dont have the time to try and dig through myself.

              I understand.

              You’re trying to defend the massacres committed by Hamas as legitimate self-defense. You’re trying to defend Hamas as a bunch of freedom fighters protecting Palestinian civilians.

              Of course you’re not going to look up evidence that Hamas has been making Palestinians’ lives miserable. That would run counter to that narrative.

          • Madison420@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Neither was Lehi and now they’re officially part of the IDF, you know the terrorist group.

            All of these things are the exact same thing Israel did in mandatory Palestine including using schools, hospitals and temples to store weapons and fighters. Their terror organizations murdered people for religious concerns and quite honestly still do.

            And yet lehi and similar were the same but are now praised as freedom fighters.

            You could say the same if the idf dude, they literally absorbed about a half dozen terrorist organizations into the idf as an official matter with commendations for attacks that killed civilians.

            Why do you simp for one or the other, they’re both dogshit.

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        1 year ago

        They didn’t, isreali police say that number is lower and includes IDF dead and IDF friendly fire incident.

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          Yes, they corrected the number down to 1,200.

          They originally assumed that it was 1,400 dead civilians, but identifying mangled and burned bodies is apparently taking a while.

          Ah the same time, the number of dead at the festival has been corrected from an estimate of 200 to at least 350.

    • SCB@lemmy.world
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      Hamas built that prison, when they tried to overthrow the Jordanian and Egyptian governments while also calling for the genocide of Israel.

      There’s a reason people are stuck in Gaza and that reason is entirely Hamas.