We all know this, but this might be a good article to share with friends and relatives, it’s two years old, but I hadn’t seen it before.

TLDR: University of Adelaide (in Australia) scientists examined meat eating in cultures world wide, and found that more meat correlates with longer life.

They point out that previous research efforts indicating meat causes bad health are badly designed and suspect on the face of them, but even more suspect with this study

  • Knusper@feddit.deEnglish
    82·
    11 months ago

    This is just a correlation, not a causation.

    The real factor influencing life expectancy is likely going to be wealth. Poor countries have little/expensive meat and a low life expectancy. Rich countries have much/cheap meat and a medium life expectancy. And wealthy people in rich countries will have the highest life expectancy, even though they’re more likely to eat a vegan diet compared to the poorer people in those countries.

    As a result, if you look at it globally, on average, people with a high life expectation are eating tons of meat. But if you look at just rich countries, people with a high life expectancy are eating less meat.

    And if you’re thinking, the green people are faking studies, consider for a moment, if we would really deem life expectancy worthwhile, with the planet getting gradually less worth living on from here on out.

    • psud@aussie.zoneOPEnglish
      32·
      11 months ago

      They controlled for wealth, they controlled for other calorie sources.

      They found that in groups otherwise alike (so same wealth level, same region, same cereal intake, etc) those who are meat lived longer, more meat, more longer

      Anyway this is one of those correlations that make you wonder what could be a confounding factor (after all they controlled for). It’s not like vegetarians, where the data are clouded by their generally healthier choice of food and a more active lifestyle than the general population

      Sure us carnivores get fit, but we’re not typical meat eaters, most are not even in ketosis even first thing in the morning

      If you’re that worried about the near future, and don’t want to see it, I recommend the standard American diet

  • wuffa@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    32·
    11 months ago

    Even they say that meat is not necessary and can be substituted: “Studies looking into the diets of wealthy, highly educated communities, are looking at people who have the purchasing power and the knowledge to select plant-based diets that access the full nutrients normally contained in meat. Essentially, they have replaced meat with all the same nutrition meat provides.”

      • psud@aussie.zoneOPEnglish
        23·
        11 months ago

        I totally thank my mother for feeding me brain as a baby and meat throughout my childhood. I’m in the 95th percentile for height and think I’m better able to learn than many in my career

  • psud@aussie.zoneOPEnglish
    511·
    11 months ago

    Personal comment, based on information I have absorbed over the last few years, the US organisations for researching and advising on diet have been influenced too heavily by vegetarian groups, especially the seventh day adventists. This has led to the long standing rule that nutrition advice has a 5 year halflife

    I like that this diet has really stood the test of time, being the diet 10,000 years ago, being demonstrated in a scientific way by Steffansson in the '40s, and tested again by us all now to great success