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    11 months ago

    Have the Korean government massacred anyone since their democratisation?

    You obviously don’t live in East Asia to realise why the South Korean government delay the handover. I will give you an important hint as much as national security: it saves them money. They get more bang for the buck. Same with the EU hosting American military bases. The EU isn’t being accused for “free-riding” for a reason.

    South Korea get more than they bargained for which, not only deters North Korea and China, but also save them money. Why change the status quo overnight if it serves them very well so far?

    Going back to the original matter at hand; yes, South Korea still exercise agency outside of the US influence in this matter. SK uses US more than the other way around.

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      Yes. They were “democratic” before 1980.

      I understand why South Korean parties bend the knee, but your original point is wrong and you’ve shifted.

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        You obviously know I mean after 1980 that SK democratised. But sure, keep rationalising and accusing me of logical fallacies that you yourself is committing. Hard to look on the mirror I know.

        The world isn’t as conspiratorial as you might think it is, with power players in a smoky backroom concocting plans and deals to manipulate people. I used to think like you. Fact of the matter is that the world is anarchic.

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          It’s not hard to see that the US has explicit power over South Korea, regardless of what the citizens want. You’re bending over backwards to justify US Imperialism.

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            Sure, keep thinking that. It is though non-white, non-Caucasians are perptual victims of Western imperialism, and could not think for themselves, and have to be looked after by white liberals and leftists from preying eyes of Western imperialist states. This does not sound at all like the condescending white man’s burden with a different flavour.

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              That’s certainly a dodge. Keep bending over backwards to justify US Imperialism, one day it might bite you.

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                I will add more cognitive dissonance on you. Did it occur to you and with other Western liberals and left to ask South Koreans what they think? It is easy to be slacktivist keyboard warrior, comfortably sitting behind a computer, and act high and mighty while living in a country not being threatened by a neighbour, pretending to speak in behalf of people they do not have intimate knowledge of.

                This attitude is also exactly what Slavoj Zizek and Jordan Peele have criticised about Western white liberals who feels offended on behalf of persons of colour without asking what they truly think, and view them as perpetual victims who could not look after themselves. Sounds a lot like the old right-wing racist white man’s burden mentality, doesn’t it? But this is ironically coming from the left and liberals. There’s nothing wrong with gracefully acknowledging it, but not repeating it is what matters more.

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                  Yes, I have. The majority of my knowledge of South Korean politics comes from South Korean immigrants, and confirmation via independent research on my own. You aren’t introducing any cognitive dissonance, you’re just giving me the opportunity to yet again prove you wrong.

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                    Oh sure, you did your research and haven’t just made things up on the spot right now. Keep coping.