Interesting bit of news for the threadiverse. All three of these are fairly large lemmy instances

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    Iā€™m fairly new to kbin but we do have mod tools here, and people have used them to moderate their community. So far I havenā€™t seen any issues with spam or what Iā€™d say is trolling (though beehaw may think different). As for whether the mod tools are ā€œgoodā€ I guess is oneā€™s opinion. I find theyā€™re enough to moderate the small communities I started here on kbin, though I have to imagine much larger (100k-1m) communities might struggle with the tools available. kbin is very new and still under development. so weā€™ll see.

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      Yeah. I would also imagine that a place like Beehaw is going to attract bad actors and trolls who want to wreck the place at the expense of Beehaw users, who specifically joined in order to have a community of nice people to hang out with.

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        the vibe here on kbin is I think very similar to what you might find on more serious subreddits or on something like hacker news. weā€™re interested in content, discussion, etc. but thereā€™s not really overt trolling. I rarely see ā€œshitpostingā€ and other stuff as well. If you think ā€œnerds who wanna talk about stuff and share news/contentā€ youā€™ve got the right gist. I donā€™t really think anyone Iā€™ve seen here would go out of there way to cause problems. but kbin does have open signups (not invite).

        idk what the mindset is for lemmy, beehaw, and the rest of the fediverse, but I think due to the long downtime for federation here on kbin thereā€™s this vibe of ā€œwe have kbin stuff, and then we have stuff from those other guysā€ Itā€™s to the point where someone quickly made a script to be able to easily see where someone is posting from.

        In that regard, itā€™s always very obvious to me when Iā€™m among beehaw users and in beehaw communities. same for when Iā€™m in lemmy spaces, or kbin spaces. whereas I think lemmy users may not know or care about that distinction. Though this might just be my own musing and others arenā€™t thinking like that haha.

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            beehaw stands out among the lemmy instances because of the unique culture.

            so idk how things work over on the lemmy instances and beehaw, but here when we get threads from other sites, the logo of the site is shown pretty blatantly. likewise the url is clearly visible. In beehawā€™s case, just looking around there it seems pretty strictly moderated with a certain cultural/style emphasis. Maybe not obvious at first glance, but reading some of the ethos pages makes it clear.

            Itā€™s a veryā€¦ ā€œtumblrā€ vibe. So beehaw defederating from lemmy.world isnā€™t really a surprise.

            Like to me the different instances have different ā€œfeelsā€ to them. and on kbin theyā€™re clearly marked so itā€™s obvious. itā€™s further emphasized as i said by the fact that we were isolated for a while.

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              The advantage Beehaw has is the way the communities are organized - so much neater than in other instances. Every community on there is a giant hub, making these communities more visible and active than what we see on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world, and to some extent kbin.

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          Really? The tone in Beehaw is obvious yeah, but I thought the tone for kbin and lemmy was slightly similar ā€“ unless things really changed in the few days when federation was down (which is possible)

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            I wasnā€™t here before kbinā€™s federation went down, but rather joined during that time with most everyone else. I do think the tone and ā€œfeelā€ between kbin and lemmy is similar for sure, and I think a lot of that is probably due to mutual ex-reddit culture. but while federation was down there was a lot of kbin users saying things like ā€œitā€™s a bit better like this because we build up a kbin culture, and understand things betterā€ and ā€œwe can build up kbin communities so weā€™re less reliant on other instancesā€.

            I think lemmy just ended up with the ā€œeverything redditā€ culture, while kbin ended up with a more reserved technical reddit culture. Though that might just be my perspective (and not shared with others). But I can understand why beehaw defederated with lemmy and not kbin. even though it kinda feels like weā€™re next lol.

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              I feel like KBin is one of those ā€œwe only show our magazines by default, but if youā€™re an advanced user or you want to explore the fediverse a bit more, we have that option too, and you can even subscribe to federated communities/magazinesā€ type of sites in the fediverse.

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                nope. that was the case for a while, when the federation wasnā€™t working right. but now it pretty openly shows threads from across the fediverse.

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              Yeah, I do wonder if Beehaw is just block happy. I am scared of clicking on their list of banned instances (like if itā€™s really shitty stuff that no sane human can look at), but they have blocked almost 400 instances.

              They havenā€™t blocked the main Lemmy one though. Iā€™m guessing the main Lemmy instance has gotten better with the reddit migration.

              What they did was the following : they defederated with Top 2 and Top 4 from what I understand (2 of the top 5).

              For, reference Lemmy.ml has 35k users, Lemmy.world around 20-25k ish, shitjustworks 10k, beehaw 10k. Then theres a lot of small lemmy instances beehaw hasnā€™t banned which go from a few hundred to a few thousand. The numbers might be slightly off since the user count tools are having issues on the lemmy side of things.