Interesting bit of news for the threadiverse. All three of these are fairly large lemmy instances

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    Yup. Taking a look at their ethos/manifesto stuff it instantly became clear to me what sort of place beehaw is, and itā€™s not one Iā€™m super fond of, so I doubt Iā€™ll ever make an account there.

    Yeah beehaw is pretty big at least from my perspective. I see three big communities: lemmy, kbin, and beehaw. and beehaw is easily the odd one out with their weird manifesto stuff lol. Which is why when they said they were defederating from lemmy, it kinda struck me as ā€œoh kbin is next thenā€ lol. but each of the three kinda have a different vibe to me, so maybe kbin is tolerable to beehaw while lemmy isnā€™t?

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      I havenā€™t had much experience with lemmy at all, in order to guess, and Iā€™ve seen conflicting things about them. Lemmy was already bigger and it feels like it got a lot more publicity than kbin, so they bore the brunt of the exodus. Itā€™s possible they didnā€™t get as lucky as we did in who that constituted. The devsā€™ weird CCP bent overshadowing some other instancesā€™ reportedly great admins just makes it even more of a confusing mess culture-wise.

      Iā€™d like to think we can abide by such stringent rules implications as ā€œbe nice.ā€ But their stated reasoning is that thereā€™s just too much content to ever hope to moderate by themselves, whichā€¦they really should have seen coming on a platform whose intent is to federate, ngl. Doesnā€™t matter if your homebase is young. You need underlings for this once it gets beyond a couple hundred people.

      Which is why Iā€™m leaning on the side of beehaw eventually deciding thereā€™s no choice but to defed way more than this until and unless they can afford help. With four admin-mods alone against the mercy of the entire fediverse, their hopes of upholding the mission statement will eventually be laughable any other way.

      Not that I think weā€™re nearly as bad as other places out there. I think weā€™ve got a surprisingly great atmosphere going and I hope to god it stays. But those are their two options, and kbin users seem to have an admirably civil tendency both to shitpost and to question and hear out differing viewpoints in a way Iā€™m not sure beehaw will appreciate.

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        Yup. I completely agree. I understand why beehaw defederated from lemmy because lemmy kinda seemsā€¦ unhinged, in comparison to beehawā€™s carefully crafted community.

        Whereas kbin I think youā€™re right, tend to be happy to civilly hear each other out. whereas I feel like beehaw isnā€™t really interested in that. Though I think of kbin users respect beehawā€™s way of doing things while weā€™re in their space, they might not have issues with us.

        granted, the response I got was ā€œwe donā€™t even think about youā€ so maybe kbin is too small to really be noticeable to them lol.

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          Unhinged. Youā€™ve found the perfect word for it. They come off to me like what happens in study hall when the instructor has to leave.

          granted, the response I got was ā€œwe donā€™t even think about youā€ so maybe kbin is too small to really be noticeable to them lol.

          Goodness, my pride, lmao. I think Iā€™m quite content not to be such a giant enough instance I get thought of. Hundreds of comfier, smaller places over Reddit Deux any day. I agree, the people here seem on the whole cognizant enough to keep themselves in check, rather thanā€¦whatever reddit was. That would be one behavior I am thrilled to see die, and hopefully federating with more chaotic instances wonā€™t kick it up again. Iā€™m concerned it may.

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            haha youā€™ve summed up my thoughts exactly. itā€™s a little interesting seeing lemmy get the wilder side of reddit and kbin getting the more reserved side. whereas both are ā€œsimilarā€ enough that I think weā€™re fine with each other.

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          Beehaw hasnā€™t really defederated from Lemmy. They still allow the biggest Lemmy instance and a lot of smaller Lemmy instances. What they have done is block 2 of the top 4 (hard to count since the user count tools are having issues here on the lemmy side)ā€¦

          I first had worries about Lemmy and thought about kbin first, but seems the reddit migration has managed to make the issues minor in my case. Thereā€™s less issues. So, Iā€™m surprised Beehaw had that amount of trolling.