If they consistently voted, that would be a bigger threat. Vote third party because no one will believe the demographic that consistently sits out elections sat this one out specifically to hand the country to fascists. That didn’t work out so well for Germans or the rest of the world, but maybe the Fourth Reich is the charm.
Like I said to the other guy: They don’t vote enough but voter turnout for the 18-30 age bracket was almost 50% in 2020 (the highest in a very long time). If Biden can’t get the same numbers for 2024 he loses, and he’s very much failing at that.
Sure, but if young progressives don’t want Trump as President, they are gonna have to bite the bullet and vote Biden. This is the wrong time to send a message.
You recognize how demoralizing that is, though? Zoomers are staring into the face of oblivion. There’s nothing right now that isn’t entirely fucked. The economy, the job market, the housing market, education, international relations, human rights, social equality, racism and bigotry, the climate, biodiversity, journalism, entire ecosystems, energy production, healthcare, all of it sucked dry by their forebears.
Many of these kids were too young to vote for Biden the first time, or Hillary before that. They sat like passengers in a crashing plane while the US Government continued it’s inexorable decline into madness. And it didn’t start with Trump, nor did it end when Biden took office, but at the very least we don’t have a fascist in the Oval Office anymore.
Now you’re saying that they need to step up and prevent another Trump administration, but the only way they can do it, the only possible option is to pull a lever next to Status Quo Biden? Buy into the shit show and pledge fealty to the collapse, or else someone will set the crashing plane on fire?
I did vote for Biden, and I voted for Hillary, and I will vote for Biden again next time, but neither was my first choice, and it’s not my fault they were selected to run. Telling kids that “now is not the time” to send a message is like saying “we have ice cream at home” when you know damn well there’s just one crusty ice pop in the bottom of the freezer, only instead of ice cream, it’s a survivable future.
Oh, it’s 100 percent demoralising! But thats, unfortunately, what it boils down to, isn’t it? Having to choose the lesser of two evils instead of being allowed to vote with your heart (even if that means not voting at all). It’s entirely unfair. Young people aren’t responsible for this mess, and now so much depends on them. They deserve so much better, but are stuck with a party that is united behind a lunatic with the vocabulary of a 5 year old, or a party that is excellent at putting forth candidates that make that lunatic look just reasonable enough. If this was any other country I’d merely sympathise and sleep peacefully knowing that Trump is old and unhealthy, and that his time will come. But it’s the US that we’re talking about, and so much depends on the election. You not only have the US looking at young voters, but the entire world. It’s a horrible situation.
Let me tell you what Arab Americans are saying. If you stick us with a choice of a president who will bomb Arabs OR a president who will bomb Arabs, then there will be blood on our hands for voting for either and will stay home.
Biden broke promises to the community and did so in the misguided hope he could get some Republicans to switch their votes to him. Hillary tried the same thing and failed.
Well really what are the young progressives gonna do? Vote for whatever fascist clown is gonna run against him?
Not vote at all, or vote third party. None of these will get a good candidate into office, but they’ll do more than enough to lose Biden the election.
Centrists consider their own entitlement to be reality itself and cannot imagine either of these happening.
If they consistently voted, that would be a bigger threat. Vote third party because no one will believe the demographic that consistently sits out elections sat this one out specifically to hand the country to fascists. That didn’t work out so well for Germans or the rest of the world, but maybe the Fourth Reich is the charm.
Like I said to the other guy: They don’t vote enough but voter turnout for the 18-30 age bracket was almost 50% in 2020 (the highest in a very long time). If Biden can’t get the same numbers for 2024 he loses, and he’s very much failing at that.
Not vote?
That’s the same as voting for Trump
Yes. But that’s not their fault. Biden, or whichever Democrat is on the ballot, isn’t entitled to anyone’s vote for simply being “not the fascist.”
Sure, but if young progressives don’t want Trump as President, they are gonna have to bite the bullet and vote Biden. This is the wrong time to send a message.
You recognize how demoralizing that is, though? Zoomers are staring into the face of oblivion. There’s nothing right now that isn’t entirely fucked. The economy, the job market, the housing market, education, international relations, human rights, social equality, racism and bigotry, the climate, biodiversity, journalism, entire ecosystems, energy production, healthcare, all of it sucked dry by their forebears.
Many of these kids were too young to vote for Biden the first time, or Hillary before that. They sat like passengers in a crashing plane while the US Government continued it’s inexorable decline into madness. And it didn’t start with Trump, nor did it end when Biden took office, but at the very least we don’t have a fascist in the Oval Office anymore.
Now you’re saying that they need to step up and prevent another Trump administration, but the only way they can do it, the only possible option is to pull a lever next to Status Quo Biden? Buy into the shit show and pledge fealty to the collapse, or else someone will set the crashing plane on fire?
I did vote for Biden, and I voted for Hillary, and I will vote for Biden again next time, but neither was my first choice, and it’s not my fault they were selected to run. Telling kids that “now is not the time” to send a message is like saying “we have ice cream at home” when you know damn well there’s just one crusty ice pop in the bottom of the freezer, only instead of ice cream, it’s a survivable future.
Oh, it’s 100 percent demoralising! But thats, unfortunately, what it boils down to, isn’t it? Having to choose the lesser of two evils instead of being allowed to vote with your heart (even if that means not voting at all). It’s entirely unfair. Young people aren’t responsible for this mess, and now so much depends on them. They deserve so much better, but are stuck with a party that is united behind a lunatic with the vocabulary of a 5 year old, or a party that is excellent at putting forth candidates that make that lunatic look just reasonable enough. If this was any other country I’d merely sympathise and sleep peacefully knowing that Trump is old and unhealthy, and that his time will come. But it’s the US that we’re talking about, and so much depends on the election. You not only have the US looking at young voters, but the entire world. It’s a horrible situation.
Sounds like they need to organize and work on changing our archaic ass voting system first, then.
Let me tell you what Arab Americans are saying. If you stick us with a choice of a president who will bomb Arabs OR a president who will bomb Arabs, then there will be blood on our hands for voting for either and will stay home.
Biden broke promises to the community and did so in the misguided hope he could get some Republicans to switch their votes to him. Hillary tried the same thing and failed.