• Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Ah, I hope one day future civilizations dig up a Yelp review and we have our own Ea-Nasir, famous for serving cold garlic bread or something.

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    I feel like half of xkcd is just knowledge-one ups on the reader. No fucking clue what ea-nasir is. Google says it’s some ancient merchant from Mesopotamia. Not sure how that’s humorous but I’m sure there’s a niche reason the author is very smart for observing.

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      11 months ago

      There’s actually a pretty large ea-nasir meme-posting culture, it’s one of my favourite internet things.

      Basically it originated from this cuneiform tablet from 1750BC, the oldest known written complaint.

      Translation of the complaint: (source: 1967 Book “Letters from Mesopotamia”

      Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message:
      

      When you came, you said to me as follows : “I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots.” You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: “If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!”

      What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and umi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Samas.

      How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

      Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.

      Most of the humour of the various memes and jokes (some examples found here) seems to stem from the fact that Nanni’s salt and rage has endured thousands of years and now we know about it. Ea-Nasir will always be remembered as a shitty copper merchant, and there’s just something inherently hilarious about that, to me.

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      He’s an ancient mesopotamian merchant who ripped people off and we know of him because we have bunch of clay tablets from people complaining about being ripped off by him.

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      11 months ago

      Congrats on being one of today’s lucky 10,000!!

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      11 months ago

      knowledge one ups on the reader

      with peace and love, you found the definition of an inside joke :)

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      In this particular case, the ea-nasir tablet is pretty popular online and you are one of the lucky 10000 (to use one of the better xkcd memes). But I agree that xkcd tends to be really smug, which makes their worse comics really unpalatable. They are not even being particularly smart, they just use strawmen and big words liberally.

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    You know, isn’t it possible the complaints were only a few from people that were quite picky. Could he not have had many happy customers and just kept the complaints because it was funny? Is there a reason people just assume he definitely scammed people all the time?

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      They found and translated a bunch of tablets of letters to him that were found all together. As I remember, there were several complaints about the quality of the copper and they decided the building they were found in must have been his workshop. It’s possible he has happy customers who just didn’t write him letters.

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    It may be a coincidence that this is being posted on Christmas Eve, but I still find it weird A Few of My Favorite Things is highly regarded as a Christmas song due to a few coincidentally apt lyrics, not because it’s about nativity, Santa or festivities in December. ( Favorite Things is about coping in the face of adversity, say when scary thunder wakes all the sleeping kids.)

    Not long ago, I noticed Hazy Shade of Winter (Simon and Garfunkle) was on a Christmas album, a version styled on the Bangles cover. Hazy Shade is about an old poet struggling with geriatrics, cynicism, and waning enthusiasm for writing. But now it’s a Christmas song.

    Maybe we need more Christmas songs that are suitable to gloom of Seasonal Effective Disorder and the unrelenting march of Time, time, time

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      Maybe we need more Christmas songs that are suitable to gloom of Seasonal Effective Disorder.

      Yes, 100%. I’d like to see more songs about the dark cold that sucks rather than pretend with “merry and bright.”