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You know, it usually bothers me when headlines use descriptors instead of candidate names.
GOP Hopeful here doesn’t deserve a name.
This stuff just gets more terrifying by the day.
Are there democrats doing this sort of violent threats a lot? Do I miss those news stories because I am on Lemmy??
No. Any Democrat who said “we should execute all Republicans” would be shunned/called out by the rest of the party.
To give an example, look at the Bernie Sanders supporter who opened fire at a Congressional baseball game. Bernie quickly denounced this act of violence as did all other Democrats. Meanwhile, a large number of Republicans - including their likely Presidential candidate - call the January 6th insurrectionists “heroes” and “political prisoners” for violently invading the Capitol and wanting to kill Democrats (and Mike Pence).
And has any Republican denounced Nick Fuentes for calling for the execution of Jews? Stefanik was so “concerned” about anti-semitism on college campuses. Has she mentioned this once given that Fuentes has met with Trump?
Nope. Nothing. The best they can do is silence. Any other response they give is praise for the violent imagery or actions.
not really, no. There might have been one or two… But none of them were blatantly… awful…
Also, the difference is that if I saw a fellow democrat post GOP members in nooses I’d call him a fucking lunatic and tell him to get lost.
But, a republican would apparently elect him to office.
My mom is pretty vehemently anti trump, she has a Christmas ornament that says “fuck Trump” and a coffee mug that’s says something to a similar effect. No effigies tho, but GOP had a pretty dark history with that one so it probably wasn’t too deep in their playbook.
I mean… “fuck that guy” is pretty mild these days. a mere expression of… dislike…
The worse you get is a pulled fire alarm.
arguably, he had justifications for that, too. (the GOP were calling a snap vote and he wanted time to read the bill. or so he said. Though also, I wouldn’t be surprised if it really turned out, he was in a hurry, thought the door was supposed to be unlocked and got flustered enough to have pulled it by mistake. people in a hurry like that are… kinda dumb… )
I thought the statement was that he thought triggering the alarm would open the door nearby, non?
Yes.
Fire code generally requires that one can always get out. Locked doors that are used for egress have pull stations that frequently (at least in the US) look exactly like fire pulls. - Typically they’re blue or green instead of red with different relevant text. All anyone sees is “EMERGENCY” … which is why it’s usually considered bad practice to put fire pulls anywhere near a door now. (And I’m kind of surprised the complex had fire pulls at all, they generally generate far more false alarms than they do real ones- and the real pulls generally happen after smokes or other sensors. They also pose vulnerabilities of the “terrorists” kind.)
There was also speculation that he really did it to delay the vote. The bill didn’t get into his hands with enough time to review it; not even the promised window… and he was concerned that things might have been slipped in.
Either scenario is is plausible to me; in experience people confronted with a door they think should be unlocked get weird and dumb (I’ve been working in contract security for over 15 years. I’ve… seen a lot of dumb people locked out. My favorite is when they’re holding the key but can’t find it….I try not to laugh.)
So the dude took part in an insurrection where they brought a gallows to the Capitol and said they were going to hang Democrats until Trump got declared the winner. Now he’s got Christmas ornaments in the same vein.
Do i still have to pretend like their conspiracy theories about antifa or whatever are reasonable theories? Like, can we admit these dudes are fascist revolutionaries who want to destroy democracy? It’d be nice to just be honest about it, right?
And we’ve also got to still accept that all these “hanging” imagery is just pretend, right? They don’t really want to execute all of us, right?
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When you make hating Democrats your entire personality
I remember when Christmas was supposed to be about peace and goodwill. Funny how the people who think there’s a war on Christmas seem to not care about those parts of it
“At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge,” said the [one of the gentlemen], taking up a pen, “it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”
“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.
“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”
“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”
“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?” said Scrooge.
“Both very busy, sir.”
“Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,” said Scrooge. “I’m very glad to hear it.”
“Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,” returned the gentleman, “a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?”
“Nothing!” Scrooge replied.
- Charles Dickens
I personally hope each and every member of the the GOP enjoyed their visits from the Ghosts of Christmases, Past, Present and Yet to Come.
Right? They can’t set their work life aside for one evening and just be with your family? You literally have them on your tree. That seems obsessive.
And this is why many of them are disinvited from family gatherings.
Just in case someone trys to down play this:
Not SLAMMED, but BLASTED
but BLASTED
BUTT BLASTED
GOP hopeful NUKED FROM ORBIT by press
They have to gradually increase the rhetoric to violence so that when it transitions to the literal the masses don’t get too shocked.
Yes it’s clearly a conspiracy among many news organizations to slowly make people okay with violence, and not just that someone found wording that gets more clicks so they can make more money and other entities started following suit because they like money too.
When is the GOP officially going to change their party name to KKK?
The “Krand Kod Karty”
who pleaded guilty to a felony in the January 6 attack, is running for U.S. Congress in West Virginia in 2024.
Well, it sounds like he has the credentials. /s
I wish the /s was needed, but in WV insurrection is actually a plus … :(
Don’t feed these trolls. Let his disgraced ass fade into obscurity.
while locked up for making terroristic threats.
I’d honestly prefer if they were locked up for one of the other crimes they have probably committed.
If you get locked up for “saying mean things to Democrats” (how they would refer to it), you can claim to be being persecuted for being a
fascistRepublican.If they get locked up for DUI or sexual assault, it will be a little tougher to claim martyrdom.
Once they’re behind bars and abandoned, then bring the terrorism charges.
Edit: or, having read the article, throw him back in prison for the crimes for which he’s already admitted responsibility for.
I’d honestly prefer if they were locked up for one of the other crimes they have probably committed.
If you get locked up for “saying mean things to Democrats” (how they would refer to it), you can claim to be being persecuted for being a fascist Republican.
And you don’t think they won’t try to make those charges political? lock them up for everything you can. including terrorism. they’ll claim martyrdom no matter what happens because they have a persecution complex.
If protesters burned an effigy of Trump or Bush, none of us would bat a fucking eye.
But no matter what we think, this is protected speech.
It’s protected speech up to a point. Then it becomes an actual threat. The gallows in front of Congress as the insurrectionists violently broke into the Capitol chanting “hang Mike Pence” wasn’t protected speech.
Calling for the execution of your political foes crosses a line, especially when you know that there’s a large element of your base willing to take your “protected speech” and turn it into action. That and the repeated calls from the right for violence (see Nick Fuentes calling for the execution of all Jews and enemies of Trump) elevate this beyond protected speech IMO.
Bruh it’s a christmas tree.
The guy who hung these ornaments was one of the January 6th insurrectionists. He’s shown that he’s willing to engage in violence and so it’s not “just a Christmas tree.”
He’s since deleted his post and posted that it wasn’t a call for violence. Given that he included President Biden and VP Harris in his “noose ornaments,” he probably got a visit from the Secret Service. They don’t tend to view these things as “just harmless pranks” or “just some odd Christmas ornaments.” Especially when there are clearly people (this person included) willing to take the speech and try to make it a reality.
he also posted photos of it on the internet. intentionally. Remove the tree. The tree itself is largely irrelevant. he posted pictures of people being hung in effigy. it’s as simple as that.
It’s a fucking ornament. You’re allowed to want people executed and you’re allowed to express it in many indirect ways. You can try to paint it as incitement all you want, but passive bullshit like ornaments are fine.
What is so hard to understand, they advertised their desire for political murder to their constituents. It wasn’t “just an ornament” in private. They made a public statement by displaying it.
Why do republican sycophants insist on removing all context from this stuff? Bending over backwards to present it in a favorable way is so slimy and manipulative.
You’re in the wrong side of history here, bud.
yes i would. Fucking hell. speech has meaning. And hanging people in effigy is easily considered a threat; particularly when you look at the history of lynch mobs. Are people allowed to say “I’m going to come for you and your family and hang you?” absolutely. But that protection doesn’t mean the government can’t lock your ass up for making terroristic threats.
“I’m going to come for you and your family and hang you?”
Bahaha. Are you equating a direct, verbal, actionable threat with a fucking Christmas tree ornament?
Hopefully this prick gets a visit from the FBI for Christmas.
Before he hung them from nooses, he liked to look under their clothes and make them kiss.
Dark Helmet : Did you see anything?
Colonel Sandurz : No, sir! I didn’t see you playing with your dolls again.
Democrats do insider trading and stuff but this psycho shit is always Republicans
GOP candidates are f-ing stupid
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Derrick Evans—a former Republican state lawmaker in West Virginia convicted of participating in the January 6 siege on the U.S. Capitol—is facing backlash after posting a photo on Christmas Day featuring tree ornaments depicting Democratic leaders hanging from nooses.
Figures of former President Barack Obama, ex-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former presidential Chief Medical Advisor Anthony Fauci were also included in the photo.
The former state lawmaker, who is running as a Republican for U.S. Congress in 2024, pleaded guilty in 2022 to felony civil disorder in the January 6 attack and sentenced to three months in prison.
The picture garnered backlash from several users on X, including Jeff Hoffman, who wrote that Evans’ post was “downright disgusting and we should never let someone like this hold office.”
“Derrick Evans of West Virginia needs to be locked up in prison AGAIN because he failed to learn his lesson about being a seditious insurrectionist,” wrote X user Jon Thomas, who also tagged law enforcement agencies like the FBI and Capitol Police.
“The traitor Jonathan ‘Derrick’ Evans is under supervised release until at least September 2025, yet he continues to make thinly veiled threats to hang people … Back to jail dips***!?”
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