• odium@programming.dev
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    11 months ago

    There is no overarching antifa organization though. Try looking for a website/forum/etc of antifa. There are websites for random local activist groups which call themselves <city name> antifa, but there is no leader or comittee overseeing these groups. There is no process to join antifa, any activist group or individual can call themselves antifa.

    So there are no calls made by antifa, good or bad. There are only calls made by individuals or local groups that call themselves antifa.

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      11 months ago

      Fair. I think you can understand them as a group still, similarly to how you can see anonymous as a group.

      I don’t think I’m educated enough to say anything against the group as a whole, as I haven’t sat down to do a lot of research on them (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

      however I don’t think the logic of the source meme on it’s own shows someone as fascist just because they oppose the antifa orginization.

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        (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

        Damn that’s refreshing to read.

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        11 months ago

        I do agree that someone isn’t a fascist if they disagree with antifa. I was just talking about the part where you talked about antifa the organization.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t think I’m educated enough to say anything against the group as a whole, as I haven’t sat down to do a lot of research on them (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

        You should do more research :)

        Unless you’re talking about this one, referring to “the antifa organization” makes as little sense as saying “the conservative organization”. There are many organizations with variously overlapping goals and strategies for achieving them, but there hasn’t been a singular “antifa organization” since 1933.

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          11 months ago

          You should do more research :)

          Just not something I have gotten around to.

          “the antifa organization” makes as little sense as saying “the conservative organization”

          I think using the word organization was an odd choice on my part. Maybe a better wording would be group. Often times, there are groups that show similar characteristics such that you can think of them by the group. For example, I think of christians as a group are not great. Their is a large swath of Bigotry or people who are so under educated, such that it is impossible to communicate with them (I’ve been in a convo with a christian who was brain dead and couldn’t even conceive of the concept of there being no God, to the point where he wouldn’t accept a single hypothetical that didn’t presuppose God was a real being).

          This doesn’t mean that you should judge each individual by the group, I’ve had some amazing conversations with some intelligent Christians who do not fall under this category. However, I still think it’s somewhat reasonable to generalize. I can say “Republicans are lunatic fanboys who focus on feeling like their right and everyone else is stupid. Such to the point where they will often just refer to the others at Liberals” while still taking into account that I know some republicans who can have reasonable discussions (Despite the fact that I feel their ideas are dog water).