• MxM111@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Yes, I am saying precisely that. The raids are not war. It is just the question of definition of what war is and is not. One thing I agree with you, it is 1984 shit. Just I suspect we disagree who is doing it. You may want to open dictionary and check what war is.

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      9 months ago

      Ok.

      war

      /wôr/

      noun

      noun: war; plural noun: wars

      a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

      Sure sounds like what’s happening in the West Bank to me… unless the IDF is only killing unarmed people. Is that what is going on?

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        9 months ago

        Let’s abstract this. We marine you are asking someone: “there is this state that as result of war occupied territory, but did not annex it. In this occupied territory it organized provisional government, yet this territory is not independent and still under occupation. There is resistance in this territory and the state periodically has raids to squash the resistance. The resistance is not organized or have relationship to the provisional government. At some point due to events happening elsewhere, the resistance is activated and number of raids dramatically increased to the levels higher than before, higher than at any time since setting up the provisional government. The state did not declare war on provisional government, the provisional government did not declare war on the state nor is the one who is responsible for increase in resistance activity. The state does not target the government or officials from the government, it only increased the number of raids. How would you call this situation?”

        How do you honestly think that person answer? As for me, I would be very surprised that the person would answer “a war”. It is continued occupation with increased activity and raids. Don’t you agree that this is reasonable answer?

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            9 months ago

            It is not wrong, it is just not full. Answer the question I ask you in the above post about abstracting situation.

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              9 months ago

              You: “You may want to open dictionary and check what war is.”

              Me: Okay, here’s the definition.

              You: That’s not the full definition.

              Then why did you tell me to look it up? Or at least not tell me which dictionary to look it up in that would agree with you?

              Did you even check what the dictionary definition was before you told me to look it up?

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                9 months ago

                You are not answering my question. Are you trying to discuss dictionaries instead? You are avoiding topic. I probably should have said encyclopedia , but you will face the same problem when you see “intensity of conflict” etc. So, let’s not talk about dictionaries but about the meaning of the word as most people would understand in this situation. This is why abstracted for you to see my point. Can you answer my question?

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                  9 months ago

                  You told me to look it up in a dictionary. I did what you told me to and you dismissed it. I have no reason to answer your question when you won’t even accept something I did that you told me to do.