• quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    Keep this garbage out of europe please. i see it popping up. I will absolutely refuse to tip a single goddamn soul at this point going forward.

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      9 months ago

      Scotland is a goner, last time I was there all the card terminals had it. Asked a waitress if she would get the tip if I have one and she flushed, mumbled something, looked at the boss and sheepishly said it gets shared. I bet none of the staff sees any of it.

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      9 months ago

      Tipping is pretty normal here in Germany but not required, no one depends on it. Probably because our minimum wage is actually high enough. Germany’s minimum wage of 12.50€/h is almost double that of the US, which is $7.25/h or 6.76€/h if you convert it.

      Edit: I just found out in this thread that businesses don’t even have to pay minimum wage in the US, they just have to pay what’s left for the tips to cover the minimum wage. That’s so fucking stupid, holy shit.

      • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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        9 months ago

        That’s so fucking stupid, holy shit.

        Isn’t it? Almost like tipping at all is dumb. But don’t believe all the hype you’re reading. Many states supersede that requirement with higher wages. You can see the full listing of state by state requirements here.
        https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

        The most populous states (so think majority of people you’d ever talk to online on the matter) require jobs to match their minimum wage and not just the federal one. So AZ as an example (and only choosing this example since I live here), the “tipped” wage is 11.35 and the minimum wage that must be reached is 14.35 after tips. I do not feel a need to tip much more than a couple bucks if I tip. 14.35 to bring me a lukewarm plate of ever decreasing meal portions… I’d rather just get up and get the food off the line myself than pay someone 10$ to do it for me.

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      9 months ago

      It’s worse than you think – In most US States, you can pay people way under the minimum wage as long as their tips make up for it. So an average waiter might make 2 bucks and hour on paper. If they didn’t get enough tips to reach minimum wage, the restaurant would have to pay them out on top of that, but it’s just this fucked up cultural thing to give restaurant owners free labor that the customers pay for.

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      9 months ago

      In Austria often times they expect it because of “good behaviour”. Its not a fix percentage but more pocket chance. Still they are getting a full salary at the end of the month

      • Herbal Gamer@sh.itjust.works
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        9 months ago

        That was a big change for me coming there from the Netherlands. Tipping is a bigger thing here, but salaries are also better and waiters seem to get some level of respect as well.