• Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Mate, I’ve never once been pressured to use an iPhone in the states. Not sure what any of that has to do with international travel where chat platforms are phone-agnostic. No one using whatsapp cares about my Pixel.

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      9 months ago

      It’s not international travel. I live with my wife in her country. International calling and texting is expensive.

      So I can just get a use an iPhone with iMessage or convince my immediate and extended family and professional contacts to use a different chatting app.

      It’s just easier to use an iPhone.

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        9 months ago

        or convince my immediate and extended family and professional contacts to use a different chatting app.

        I’m sure at least your family will happily just install Signal, WhatsApp or so in order to avoid excessive monetary cost to you. What kind of family wouldn’t?

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          9 months ago

          It very clearly does. If they can’t get all their contacts on other chat apps because they’re on iPhones then how could you possibly say it has nothing to do with iPhones?

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            9 months ago

            What does a contact list have to do with a phone? Does the iPhone lock you out of even proper contact management?

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                  9 months ago

                  Only iPhones can use iMessage. iMessage uses a data connection rather than SMS or calling. OP lives in a different country and international SMS or calling would cost a lot of money, but a data connection does not. The only way of communicating with certain people without incurring extra charges is for OP to use iMessage over a data connection.

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            9 months ago

            But imessenger works over the internet. It’s not an SMS service so the carrier has nothing to do with it. im in tons of groupchats with imessenger recipients. never had a problem except with apple purposefully downgrading all media. my phone has wifi calling so I can receive my sms messages anywhere I can get service.

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              9 months ago

              Their point was they don’t want to deal with the carrier so they want to message over data. However the people the wish to contact don’t have chat apps so they use iMessage. Yes obviously they should just download another app but you can’t force someone to do that.

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                9 months ago

                That’s a carrier feature. I can message anyone anywhere with anything I want. Has nothing to do with iPhone. I just group texted all my iphone friends from Firefox on my PC.

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                  9 months ago

                  Alright, so let’s say I have an iPhone and my friend also does if I’m away from cell service but have data and try to send them an SMS it will go through as an iMessage in the same app they use to text. So I can still message them in the same app they’re using for SMS and iMessage with everyone else.

                  So there’s already a built in messaging app pretty much. I think part of the confusion is group texts. I don’t think they’re actually talking about group chats but rather one on one with various people who already have iPhones. It’s easier to just send them a message that way. Yes this isn’t a good state of affairs.

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                    9 months ago

                    Your first paragraph is not relevant to the phone but the service. That’s the whole point I’m trying to make. It’s called wi-fi calling and is a service feature not a phone feature. Apple makes it easier but I can still message anyone without a phone just fine.