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I was pointing out that your statement was a strawman. But really it’s just a false statement. A lie, if you will.
There has never been any discussion about children consenting with respect to trans rights. The parents and/or medical professionals are ALWAYS involved in the decision.
That isn’t really an ad hominem. It’s just an insult. An ad hominem would be: “What validity could that argument have when you, the person defending it, is an idiot?” Same goes for the other user’s complaint.
Sure, sometimes it is discussed whether or not children can transition medically (p.s: it’s why they have to go through an army of doctors and psychologists), but to deny that the debate doesn’t revolve around if someone is happy or religion is ignorant.
Countless times I have seen people make the argument that transitioning has a high regret rate, countless of times I’ve seen people invoke religion and try to say being trans is a sin (what with the whole bible quote about men not wearing women clothing).
So when people debate about trans people, 90% of the time it is about someone’s happiness and getting in the way of it.
If the debate is about reality, it’s about time the side opposing trans rights opens a scientific journal explaining the differences in the neuroanatomy of trans people and what are empirically proven methods to heal the distress provoked by gender dysphoria. Unless you actually don’t care about any of that, and the debate isn’t really about facts, but rather that the prospect that we may decide to accept that humans are a little more complicated than you had assumed personally annoys you.
Regarding neurology, here’s a fragment of a lecture where the speaker discusses those studies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ It should give you a basis to find the studies, of which you’ll probably find a few more recent ones.
You can laugh if you wish, but I am just telling you what the debate is about. If you want to further division then just call the other side names, and make things worse, you have that right.
We all wish that were true
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Look, it’s the rare strawboy!
Ad hominem
No no, this is an ad hominem: you’re an idiot.
I was pointing out that your statement was a strawman. But really it’s just a false statement. A lie, if you will.
There has never been any discussion about children consenting with respect to trans rights. The parents and/or medical professionals are ALWAYS involved in the decision.
But as I said, you’re an idiot.
That isn’t really an ad hominem. It’s just an insult. An ad hominem would be: “What validity could that argument have when you, the person defending it, is an idiot?” Same goes for the other user’s complaint.
That was all implied.
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children consenting to what? what children? what data supports your vague opinion?
Sure, sometimes it is discussed whether or not children can transition medically (p.s: it’s why they have to go through an army of doctors and psychologists), but to deny that the debate doesn’t revolve around if someone is happy or religion is ignorant.
Countless times I have seen people make the argument that transitioning has a high regret rate, countless of times I’ve seen people invoke religion and try to say being trans is a sin (what with the whole bible quote about men not wearing women clothing).
So when people debate about trans people, 90% of the time it is about someone’s happiness and getting in the way of it.
If the debate is about reality, it’s about time the side opposing trans rights opens a scientific journal explaining the differences in the neuroanatomy of trans people and what are empirically proven methods to heal the distress provoked by gender dysphoria. Unless you actually don’t care about any of that, and the debate isn’t really about facts, but rather that the prospect that we may decide to accept that humans are a little more complicated than you had assumed personally annoys you.
I would genuinely like links to some of these studies. Do you have any specifics?
Regarding neurology, here’s a fragment of a lecture where the speaker discusses those studies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ It should give you a basis to find the studies, of which you’ll probably find a few more recent ones.
Regarding the latter, take a look at this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/musicotic/comments/8ttud4/a_comprehensive_defense_of_trans_people/ I recommend checking the links and references one by one. Some link to journalistic articles or educative material, some are broken links, and some others are actually scientific articles.
Thank you for the pointers. It was a sincere request and the literature somewhat scattered.
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Lol
You can laugh if you wish, but I am just telling you what the debate is about. If you want to further division then just call the other side names, and make things worse, you have that right.
Exactly, I said both of those things!!