The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”

  • kukkurovaca@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    10715·
    2 years ago

    Nazi instances will proliferate and it benefits nobody else to stay in federation with them. It makes the whole fediverse less usable and more dangerous. And whether you like it or not it sends a message to people who are targeted by them that they are not truly welcome here, regardless of whatever moderation rules are espoused.

    And in North America, as in many places, these people are acting as a propaganda arm for a literal violent terror movement. Sometimes under a fig leaf of ”irony” but it makes no material difference whether they’re chuckling when they spew shit to me

    • chalkman@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      5912·
      2 years ago

      Thank you for the voice of reason. I have seen so many “but I don’t want an echo chamber” and “just block them bro”. Like thats not the point of this. It’s to deplatform them.

    • TurretCorruption@lemmy.worldEnglish
      297·
      2 years ago

      I’m new to the fediverse and im kinda happy that its so easy to defederate from the more over the top instances. I’m in favor of closing the door on those psychos too.

    • JoeKrogan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      627·
      2 years ago

      They are just saying whatever to get a rise out of people like 4chan. The goal is chaos they want everyone to react and ban instances.

      They don’t magically go away when they are defederated. They will sign up to other open instances and plan their raids from the defederated one which we will have no visibility of. Then they can go from instance to instance causing chaos and breaking up the network as each one defederates.

      Then you are back at square one where it is a user problem.

      I’m not supporting this particular instance but its a problem that needs to be considered and defederation is a short term fix but will result it bigger problems down the line.

      The blueprint is there to kill the network. Make a load of accounts, spam dumb shit until you are defederated… Rinse and repeat.

      • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.netEnglish
        291·
        2 years ago

        The blueprint is there to kill the network. Make a load of accounts, spam down shit until you are defederated… Rinse and repeat.

        I think the responsibility lies on the owners of each instance to manage trolls on their instance. If they moderate responsibly and shut down the Nazis and trolls, nobody will defederate them. If they don’t moderate effectively and their instance turns into a cesspool, they’ll get defederated by everybody except other trolls.

        That’s the whole point of the fediverse. You run your instance, and based on what users on your instance do, other instances decide whether or not to federate with it. And if that results in multiple federated networks that don’t federate with one another, that’s fine too. You can’t keep fascists or tankies from downloading server software and setting up an online forum. But you can keep them out of yours.

      • Floon@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Not a lot of folks are that vindictive and dedicated to the cause, to make that an issue, I don’t think.

        • JoeKrogan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          78·
          2 years ago

          I mean trolls in general, I’m not calling for defederation. I’m trying to point out it won’t solve their problem. I’m playing devils advocate and saying they’re will always be something someone finds offensive and to block problematic individuals not the whole instance.