• God@sh.itjust.works
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    You’re somehow implying that being an anti-ccp “fanatic” is basically crazy, and that people should reconsider their position… because… ? hate boner for china? what does disliking the CCP have to do with “hating china”?

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      You can dislike the CCP without hating China, or being fanatical about it. There are people that have trouble with it, though. As an example you could say that the CCP sponsors campaigns of corporate espionage on a large scale to steal technology from other countries. That one is pretty uncontroversial. But some people have trouble preventing themselves from taking it further and making generalizations about how creative the country’s citizens are, as an example.

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        I haven’t seen that. First time I see a suggestion such as that you’re mentioning, that the Chinese could be uncreative. I read lots of Chinese books all the time and if anything I’d say they’re more creative than western authors in many respects.

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          Glad to hear, I’ve been meaning to pick up some Chinese sci-fi myself now that more of that stuff is getting translated.

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            novelupdates.com has a lot of translations of asian novels in general, most terrible quality bc they’re done by amateurs but some are great, and sometimes it doesn’t matter cuz the stories themselves make up for the shitty translation.

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                Actuall xianxia novels

                1. Coiling Dragon
                2. Douluo Dalu
                3. I Shall Seal The Heavens

                More like a parody: My Disciple Died Yet Again

                Western imitation: Cradle by Will Wright

                A couple funny amateur western satires I enjoyed:

                1. Beware of Chicken
                2. Arrogant Young Master Template A Variation 4

                My first xianxia was very shitty but I enjoyed it, it’s called Martial God Asura. “Very shitty” is not an understatement, it sucks, but I enjoyed “watching” the story’s landscapes in my mind’s eye.

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                  Coiling dragon is a classic. I forgot about Douluo Dalu that was a very interesting novel with the powers and assassination traps or whatever they were, pretty creative. I’ve always like Renegade Immortal more than ISSTH.

                  Mine are.

                  1. Reverend Insanity
                  2. Lord of Mysteries
                  3. World of cultivation/Avalon of 5 elements.

                  I read the first book or part of cradle and did not like it, I even got banned from novel translation because I said I found it mid because apparently Will was a “friend of the sub” 🙄. Guess the cringe mods aren’t as bad as r/progressivefantasy which is run by a bunch of authors that just banned people from posting books with AI generated covers.

                  I remember when we were getting like 20 chapters a day+ of Martial God Asura on r/lightnovels. Those were the days. Good novels good discussion good sub, too bad all that fell apart with pateron chapters and wuxiaword turning to shit.

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                    I read the first book or part of cradle and did not like it, I even got banned from novel translation because I said I found it mid because apparently Will was a “friend of the sub” 🙄. Guess the cringe mods aren’t as bad as r/progressivefantasy which is run by a bunch of authors that just banned people from posting books with AI generated covers.

                    I hadn’t read this. Hilarious and ridiculous.

                    On the 1st one maaaaybe depending on how you phrased it, some people sound very aggressive like “author X is a dumbfuck and this is so mediocre, no effort went into this, my dog could write better by shitting onto a pigeon (he did this btw) so I’m not gonna buy the 2nd one and if you do you’re a cuck”, but then again some people are very sensitive.

                    The 2nd one is… what? 👀 I can’t. Been like 3 minutes looking at the screen thinking about it lmao. No words.

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                    Douluo Dalu’s protagonist’s weapons were some throwable things, pretty much a Mary Sue who never failed a shot and never failed to surprise an opponent. Basically his reincarnation cheat. He also focused on poison a lot. I don’t know why I liked it so much. I honestly have so much criticism for it hahah but at the same time the story was pretty cool.

                    One of my favorite things in Xianxia is not even the whole killing and fighting, although that’s not bad either, but chiefly the literary tourism I can do. I love doing tourism as well and meeting different cultures and perspectives, different landscapes, it feels very rewarding.

                    I haven’t been able to start with Japanese literature, though. Their train of thought style prose is impossible for me.

                    I tried Reverend Insanity (is that the Gu guy who’s notoriously evil?). I’ve tried a few times. I think I get the same problem as with Japanese novels, trying to stick my head into the character’s drive and not really “clicking”.

                    Lord of the Mysteries, was that the guy that was kind of integrated with a tree and was like a mind beside a city and was farming Bleach-style minions to do his bidding and govern his ever-expanding domain? I don’t know if that’s the one or if it was a other one that I recall had more of a punkish urban fantasy vibe.

                    And yeah, I used to read everything on wuxiaworld. Their shenanigans turned me toward doing a bit more piracy. I was very poor when I started and literally had no money to pay anything. Nowadays I do but I’m not as obsessive about it. I did pay like $70 for a yearly Viki subscription to watch more kdrama though. Nowadays my wallet seems to have a hole lmao. My software dev money is financing shitty startups around the world.

                    Edit: I also “disingenuously” implied that I don’t like the violence in Xianxia but chiefly the tourism. Tbh I do like their contrasting and super exaggerated and ultra-violent perspective of the world. That feeling they evoke of eternal growth and violence is, while obviously not emulatable, mesmerizing. There’s something very human about conquest war and they readily accept it.

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      I think he’s talking about the people who don’t do anything but look for hateable things about the CCP

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        why should we look for likeable things about the ccp when they’re committing genocide? lmao. and why should we spend effort looking for likeable things about the ccp when they have millions of genzedongers around the world (example: lemmygrad.ml) to do it for them?