• schmidtster@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Funnily enough, you were labeling people first, and the only source someone posted to defend this entire thing is a feminist oped. So yeah it’s a feminist issue if the only ones trying to bring it to light is the one particular group lmfao.

    Why would the need to ask that question come up in the first place? Yeesh.

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      9 months ago

      Funnily enough, you were labeling people first.

      And? I’m not using labels as an excuse to ignore you, dismiss critique, or disparage any group. I’m using labels because the limitations of language don’t give us any choice but to name whatever it is we’re discussing.

      and the only source someone posted to defend this entire thing is a feminist oped.

      Thank you for confirming my earlier assessment.

      So yeah it’s a feminist issue if the only ones trying to bring it to light is the one particular group lmfao.

      If you’re unwilling to engage with a critique on its own terms or provide any other context for your dismissal, then I must assume that your rejection of “feminism” is based on nothing.

      The fact that you’ve become so incensed by something which you yourself keep bringing up leads me to believe that this topic is something of an obsession for you, and the lack of even a casual familiarity with the topic of your obsession implies that your interest was not internally-motivated.

      So, I ask you, who did you get this opinion from? Why have you adopted it for yourself? Have you ever examined it critically? Has it brought you any tangible or social benefits? Would your current mode of thinking be threatened by a different perspective? If so, would you still be willing to risk changing your mind to learn more?

      Why would the need to ask that question come up in the first place? Yeesh.

      For the very scenario you described, where you wanted to know if certain language choices would offend someone.

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        9 months ago

        I’m unwilling to listen to a feminist bloviate about words that they don’t like and try to tell other people they are unacceptable. For no other reason than a few people use it inappropriately.

        It’s also funny how women just throw out the term incel as soon as they think an apparent male doing something they don’t like. Thats you here by the way… you are the only one in this entire chain to start using labels. So you even know what the term means? Because it doesn’t even remotely apply in this case… yeesh…

        It’s a red flag it identify feminists, very few people like dealing with them.

        This cancel culture is bullshit lmfao. But keep thinking you are gonna make a difference. It’s been a decade and it’s gone no where it’s a lost cause, move on lmfao. All it’s doing it showing the general public to avoid interacting with the group of people.

        Holy fucking yeesh with some people trying to get everything canceled since it hurts their little snowflake feelings.

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          I’m unwilling to listen to a feminist bloviate about words that they don’t like and try to tell other people they are unacceptable. For no other reason than a few people use it inappropriately.

          An unwillingness to consider other perspectives is a symptom of a repressed mind, especially in this context where you’ve admitted that they are at least partially correct in their analysis.

          It’s also funny how women just throw out the term incel as soon as they think an apparent male doing something they don’t like. Thats you here by the way… you are the only one in this entire chain to start using labels. So you even know what the term means? Because it doesn’t even remotely apply in this case… yeesh…

          Would you like some assistance in learning to speak such that people won’t immediately assume that you’re an incel, or did you just want to complain about the assumptions people make about you because of your language choices?

          It’s a red flag it identify feminists, very few people like dealing with them.

          Please define what you mean by “feminist”, because it’s not clear to me what this term means to you.

          This cancel culture is bullshit lmfao.

          I think people who use the term “cancel culture” to refer to the consequences of one’s own speech to be a form of virtue signaling. They want to be able to speak offensively without having their charachter judged negatively for it, a patently ridiculous notion when they themselves judge the criticism of others just as harshly.

          But keep thinking you are gonna make a difference.

          I’m under no illusions there, lol. You’ve already indicated multiple times that you are unwilling to engage in good faith with the very topic of this discussion.

          It’s been a decade and it’s gone no where it’s a lost cause, move on lmfao.

          If that were true, then why are Republicans spending so much effort to resist diversity, equity, and inclusion policies? If the situation were as hopeless as you describe then there would be no need.

          All it’s doing it showing the general public to avoid interacting with the group of people.

          I can see how, from the perspective of an incel, that might seem to be true. After all, if you only talk to people who share your point of view, then you’ve closed yourself off from learning about what “the general public” actually thinks and could easily mistake one’s own in-group for a representative sample of the population.

          Holy fucking yeesh with some people trying to get everything canceled since it hurts their little snowflake feelings.

          I’d find this argument a lot more persuasive if the term “cancel culture” wasn’t so excessively broad as to be applied to any form of criticism.

          If you genuinely believe this, then you should grow some thicker skin so you can ignore the “snowflake feelings” that drove you to comment in this thread.

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                9 months ago

                If you think every discussion or argument has to end with one winning and another losing, that explains everything about this interaction and speaks volumes about your character as a person.

                Stereotypical feminist, has to have your way lmfao.

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                  I don’t, which is precisely why I was worried that you’ve given up.

                  My goal in having this conversation was to help you come to terms with the fact that other people will always judge you for your speech in the same way that you judge “feminists” for “bloviating”, and that you have it within your power to choose what sort of impression you give by choosing different words.

                  But I understand projection as a defense mechanism, so go right ahead, “have your way”, and claim your conversational victory.

                  I’ll be here when you’re ready to learn.

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                    9 months ago

                    I know people judge, I just don’t give a rats ass what other people think, and no one else should either. Thats the problem and the only point I’ve defended this entire thread. The general public also doesn’t care, which is why these PSAs have gone nowhere.

                    You’re assuming a hell of a lot from a little text interaction.

                    You are the one that has to learn here, keep these feminist ways up and preaching how others should act and you’ll find people avoid you. Well unless that’s what you want… than more power to you I guess.

                    Imma block you now since you’re following me into other threads. Get a life femcel….