• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I don’t know man, the situation in Isreal is part of the fallout of hitlers actions. Seems like that should factor in. The mistake people are making is that there is only an illusion of choice and a vote for a president actually factors in very little in the grand scheme. A president does have some limited power but they are enabled by their party. If we look at the parties who’ve done the most damage I would tip the scale one way, every time.

    To answer your question should people be responsible for the illusion of choice of a president? Fuck no.

    Should they use their vote to resist the spread of white supremecy and authoritianism, yes.

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      8 months ago

      Should they use their vote to resist the spread of white supremecy and authoritianism, yes.

      Then Israel needs to be opposed, as do all ethnostates and genocidal regimes

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          Voting seemingly cannot change a system that produces results where a superpower is owned by billionaires and genocide is supported if it enriches the military industrial complex

          Which means that the working class seemingly must consider other avenues of structural reform. What alternatives remain?

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              Voters can vote for Biden and maintain the stagnant and declining United States. Which will prolong our declining living standards and eroding global power

              Or they can vote for Trump, who will destroy the United States, and the West along with it.

              Neither is an option that will improve conditions for normal Americans. They can experience obliteration over 30 years, or experience it all at once. Either way, their living standards will continue to decline, as they have for the past 30 years. No option will ever be presented in the voting booth that will reverse our national decline.

              Given that, what is to be done?

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                8 months ago

                Every second you buy that avoids violent revolution and authoritian rule is worth it in the blood not shed.

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                  Every second you buy that avoids violent revolution

                  How was the United States created?

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                    The ballot or the bullet. You act like America winning the revolution was the end of our trouble. The revolution did not end slavery. The revolution did not create equality. It secured the colonies for a new imperialistic super power.

                    Yes, if there is no ballot, then it is the bullet.