cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555.

A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • honkhonk@kbin.social
    64·
    1 year ago

    It’s amazing that the threat to unmod people actually worked, and a lot of subreddits are reopening, saying that “they have no other option”. It shows that mods care more about their place in their subreddit than the community they supposedly did their protest for.

    • TheLastAnarchist@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      381·
      1 year ago

      Exactly. They say the threat is that the sub will be reopened and then counter the threat by… reopening it?

      The sub is getting opened either way. The choice they have to make has nothing to do with whether the sub opens or not, it’s about the principle of the protest. They’re showing quite clearly that they never cared for that aspect. They just want the “i’ma good mod you guys, honest” rep. Cowards.

      • bamboo@beehaw.org
        5·
        1 year ago

        I think time will tell. Maybe opening it up and maintaining mod status will let them be able to burn it down from the inside. /r/pics has shifted the protest into only allowing pictures of John Oliver. Had all the mods been removed and replaced and the sub opened, then thats effectively the end of the protest.

        • tehmics@lemmy.fmhy.ml
          1·
          1 year ago

          /r/pics is one of the strongest protest subs on my feed right now, I think it’s the right idea. /r/interestingasfuck is even better.

    • syllogi@kbin.social
      12·
      1 year ago

      I came to the same conclusion in a post on a sub that was debating whether they should re-open permanently or not. I’ll leave it to you to imagine how well it went over, but it should be added that this behavior doesn’t only affect mods or power users; it’s true of the userbase in general. People will latch onto anything they can in order to defend crossing their own picket line.

    • SubArcticTundra@beehaw.org
      41·
      1 year ago

      Well, if your choice is failing+personal loss vs. just failing, then which one would you expect most people to go for!?

  • Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social
    58·
    1 year ago

    Btw Piracy moved to:

    @piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Run by the same mod. They have their megathread, faqs, and everything up already. Everything that they need for their community to start again in this new place… I would imagine the users of a sub all about piracy are absolutely fine about leaving Reddit for something new.

    ETA: Comment edited so you can see the whole magazine name.

  • Khalic@kbin.social
    412·
    1 year ago

    Someone should send this to relevant investors and DMCA authority, I’m sure they’ll love it

    • Rhapsody@kbin.social
      19·
      1 year ago

      I’m not a frequent visitor of that subreddit so I’m not really informed about this, but isn’t this kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face? I get where you’re coming from, but there’s a few outcomes here, none of which are conducive to the longevity of communities like this:

      • The community is investigated and determined to be in violation of the DMCA for some reason. This forces reddit to close it, but may also trigger a closer look into organized communities like this one.
      • If the aforementioned reason is because of links obscured behind hashes (as pirate subreddits love to do as their workaround), this has far-reaching implications and would directly affect the communities on the fediverse or other websites in one way or another, as it would be proven to not be as effective as people seem to think it is.
      • If the aforementioned reason is because of information regarding pirated content being hosted there, then that’s even worse, for obvious reasons, since they would be willing to file a DMCA for the mere mention of offending content.
      • If nothing happens, then it was essentially a waste of time; the only way it wouldn’t be a waste of time is if there was a positive outcome. I don’t see one, personally.

      Obviously companies can DMCA for whatever reason they want, but the entire idea of communities like this is to stay under the radar.

      Maybe I’m completely off-base with what I’m saying; this was just a thought I was tossing around in my head while I was trying to sleep shortly after reading this comment. It just doesn’t seem terribly productive. The only part that could be somewhat impactful would be if the relevant investors became aware, but the fact of the matter is that reddit will bend ass-backwards for these people, and if they were to take issue with that subreddit, then it’s gone.

      • lnnz@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 year ago

        Completely agree. I’d rather have these communities fly under the radar than get unwanted attention.

  • Cinner@kbin.social
    36·
    1 year ago

    I foresee another great article…

    Reddit CEO forces a number of subreddits to open, starting with ‘copyright infringement’ subreddit /r/Piracy and ‘anti-capitalist’ subreddit r/antiwork

    Just keep digging spez. Maybe you’ll make it to China and you can start WeQQit. Not to be confused with Wreqqit, which is what you’re doing here.

  • l3mming@lemmy.fmhy.ml
    221·
    1 year ago

    “If you are not able or willing to reopen and maintain the community please let us know.”

    No, don’t do that. Stall and don’t answer for as long as possible. As soon as you tell them you are not willing, you will be replaced.

    • Borg286@kbin.social
      4·
      1 year ago

      Would it be possible to make a vote and ask the community if they want to stay closed? They are claiming mods should be like representatives and responding as if mods view themselves like lords. Show them a democratic excuse that you are only reflecting the community.

  • coupland@kbin.social
    115·
    1 year ago

    Wait this doesn’t add up. The posted screen shot isn’t coercive. It’s asking if anyone on the mod team is willing to betray their fellow mods. If not, cool. Sounds like there were one or more mods on the /r/piracy team who chose the “betray” thing.

      • coupland@kbin.social
        21·
        1 year ago

        Understood, I’m not saying this wasn’t sleazy. Just saying that they appear to have gotten permission from x% of mods on the sub.

          • coupland@kbin.social
            31·
            1 year ago

            From reading the screen shots you shared:

            “We are reaching out to any moderators currently on the mod team who would be willing to take steps to reopen the community”

            and

            “If you have any question regarding your removal, you can contact the moderator team for /r/Piracy”

            I mean, it’s pretty obvious one or more mods rolled on you. I’m sorry I’m not trying to be argumentative with you, it’s very shitty and Reddit sucks. We wouldn’t be discussing this here if I was a friend of reddit.

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              10·
              1 year ago

              No really I’m telling you, I’ve seen the modlog, it was reddit admins. Other mods cannot remove me as I was the top mod.

              • coupland@kbin.social
                5·
                1 year ago

                You’re not following what I’m getting at. Reddit wants to have plausible deniability so they reach out to mod teams asking them to Judas on their fellow mods. We don’t know how many agreed to turn on you – maybe it was one, maybe it was 51%, maybe it was all of them.

                The mods go to Reddit and say “yes we’ll work with you to get the subreddit back up. But we don’t have access to demod the head mod.” Reddit says “say no more, I got u.” They demod you, and say “If you have any questions go speak to your fellow mods. WE didn’t make the decision, we were asked to demod you by your fellow mods.”

                Your fellow mods also have the extra perk that they can deny betraying you. “WE didn’t demod you, Reddit did! SEE the mod logs!”

                Plausible deniability all around.

                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  10·
                  1 year ago

                  I mean fair point, I do suspect one mod might jave scabbed but I guess we’ll see. With pirates, there’s some reputation on the line in our communities. If people see your name backstabbing your peers for corporate overlords, it’s not a good look. I do know that the 3 mods I added recently are legit

  • TGhost@lemmy.fmhy.ml
    5·
    1 year ago

    Hey, I think the dot at the end of URL broke the cross post and its hard to participate at the main post so ^^

  • VulcanSphere@kbin.social
    5·
    1 year ago

    Vulcan is really sure that potential investors are delighted with this kind of development on the Snoo Platform.

  • vvv@kbin.social
    4·
    1 year ago

    I decided to check mod CoC and found this
    they really do be trying to get communities back up using the community that’s already fed up with spez’s crap