• Mammal@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Awwww… isn’t that cute? They really believe they have any kind of leverage, and that they aren’t going to vote Blue No Matter Who no matter what the Dems do.

    It’s like watching puppies just before getting being murdered by an IDF sniper.

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      8 months ago

      And yet…

      “Youth are not thinking about this as Biden vs. Trump,” says Elise Joshi, the executive director of Gen-Z for Change. “They’re thinking about whether their issues are being met or dealt with." Joshi and her fellow organizers say that Biden and the Democrats must earn their support. “They need to be worried that this generation is not going to show up,” she says.

      Did they forget what the Trump years were like? Or were they all too young to pay attention and their parents never said anything? Maybe they just don’t have enough life experience to understand the importance relative to past elections. Not to mention that in the US we don’t teach them history in any useful, interesting way, so most new voters have insufficient context for what’s going on right now. Or maybe they’re the type that would prefer not to pull the trolley lever.

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      8 months ago

      Getting Trump would be worse than Biden so if they’re logical they will Vote Blue No Matter Who… but fuck your position is pathetically apathetic. We can make a ruckus and demand change because we know that if Biden agrees to our demands it increases the chances he’ll win the election.

      This would normally be part of the primary process but we didn’t get one of those.

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        8 months ago

        What, exactly, will Trump do differently from Biden when it comes to the US-supported genocide? More weapons? More money? More political cover?

        Consider: As long as Biden is president Dems aren’t going to get behind stopping the genocide.

        So no. When it comes to stopping Israel’s genocide: Trump is an improvement because then at least maybe there will be some change from the Democrats.

        I’m not apathetic - I’m realistically describing the situation.

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          8 months ago

          Are you just trolling?

          Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. Trump tried to ban muslim immigrants full stop. Trump has cozied up to evangelicals and those fucks are scary. Trump thinks wind turbines are ugly and supports expanding fossil fuel dependency. Trump stuffed the Supreme Court to overturn Roe and he’s supporting a national abortion ban.

          Trump is worse.

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            8 months ago

            If Biden disagreed with the decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem - why didn’t he move it back to Tel Aviv?

            Everything else you listed has no bearing on added support for Israel. Also: Israel oppresses Muslims harsher than anything Trump has proposed, and they actively court evangelicals in the US.

            Has Biden done anything to discourage that?

            Roe v Wade, Energy policy, SCOTUS … it’s irrelevant when compared to supporting genocide.