• dan@upvote.au
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    9 months ago

    they don’t support IMAP

    They don’t support IMAP because they want emails to remain end-to-end encrypted, and IMAP doesn’t have any way of doing that. The gateway decrypts the emails locally, then serves them as plain text.

    We need something better than IMAP, that’s designed for modern use cases. Something that’s not stateful… Maybe a web service or something like that. JMAP seems promising but barely any providers have implemented it.

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      9 months ago

      Still, if an user prefers the convenience of using any client instead of e2e, could enable it in a setting. Maybe the user subscribed because they liked the interface and the overall features of the plan, and not because of the encrypted email solution and just wants to add the account on the mobile client instead of a dedicated app

      Being closed like this IMHO is just to increase user retention

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        9 months ago

        If thex subscribed because of the interface (ehich is certainly plausible), what would they need IMAP support for? Also, if you really want IMAP, xou can have it, you just need their (open source) Proton Bridge for it (thats a sofrware) so that ut retains all features. But then I would need my own email client.

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          9 months ago

          On mobile you’re forced to use their “open source” app that is only available on the closed source app stores and not on fdroid because it uses Google push services

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            9 months ago

            Not true, it’s been available on Fdroid for quite some time now. And it doesn’t need play services for the notifications to work either.

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              9 months ago

              It’s available on an unofficial repository that can be optionally added to fdroid, it’s not available on fdroid

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                9 months ago

                Even so, your statement that it is only available on closed-source app stores is wrong. And it doesn’t even matter that it’s not provided by “My First F-Droid Repo Demo” (yes, that’d the name of the official repo). Many open source apps are on IzzyOnDroid, including Jerboa, what do you use to write on Lemmy?

                Either way, your original comment is completely wrong and it doesnt help that it’s “only” available in the most popular extra repo.

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        9 months ago

        E2E is their flagship feature and pretty much only selling point. I’m really not surprised they don’t allow to just disable it.