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drives me up a wall living in a very very red district, like “no democrat is ever going to win any local election, let alone a real leftist” district, like “our school board members ran on who was the most anti-mask” red, like “I pass white supremacist signs on the way to buy weed” red

and being in the local leftist community and the guy who runs the anarchist book club and the lady who helps keep the warming shelters open and the people who marched on city hall when a local business was getting death threats for having a drag show are all members of a discord and we get on this discord and have frank discussions about how best to vote

the people who do the protests and the mutual aid and all the real work

going “okay, they’re both fascists, but this one lacks ambition and seems happy to just glide in the position” or “they both suck, but this one can be reasoned with if you frame it patriotically enough” like we don’t even have a democrat to vote for. we know what a vote is. we know what we hope accomplish with it. we know what it can do, and we know what it can’t.

and going from those discussions to here where people think that your vote is some kind of fucking??? enabling maneuver??? as if someone isn’t going to end up in that seat regardless of what you do???

we didn’t build this system, we just live in it. we’re just trying to survive. a vote isn’t a statement of your values, it’s not an endorsement, it’s not a marriage contract, it’s a strategic play you make to keep alive.

the biggest mistake I see leftists making is overestimating their own popularity. “well but everyone would be leftist if they just-” no, stop, 1) you can’t possibly know that 2) everyone will not just

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          You see those are ideologies. Those are isms. They are however incompatible with each other and very, very different. Too different to be grouped together in one ism. It would be like grouping fascism and liberalism together and calling it rightism.

          Look. I know you Americans like to play socialist/anarchist/communist nowadays but I need you to understand that you look silly because you do not understand what any of those words mean.

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            Oh yeah? In what great enlightened utopia do you and your high horse live? I just joined the thread to make a Wizard of Oz joke. For some reason you had to get your Speedo all in a twist. I certainly don’t need you to Eurosplain anything to me with your nose in the air. I bet you drool for your local fash like Pavlov’s dog.

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          Wow… I wasn’t expecting to get anything close to the right answer that liberals aren’t part of the left. XD

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        Beep boop, I’m a word definition bot. Here’s the answer to “define the left”:

        You can vote for me as a good bot or bad bot by writing “good bot” or “bad bot” in a reply.