• Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    You are aware they started that narrative for two reasons: 1) To distract from the fact they were radicalizing nazis in the area and 2) to drum up justification for a war with china. The only reason it’s still around despite the MOUNTAINS of evidence proving it wrong is because Americans are so fucking racist that they don’t even care that it’s blatantly bullshit because it gives them moral carte blanche to hate china.

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              8 months ago

              You misunderstood. I’m taking your word as is.

              Government propaganda is good to realize!

              Let’s say we have a basket of apples. The world’s most powerful apples. And they all look rotten and diseased, we know the reasons which make them rotten, it’s peer reviewed and considered a fact.

              So then we make a leap of faith. What if despite evvvvvvveeeerrrything, this one apple is actually pure and holy. And only a few know this for sure and they’re not letting anyone else know the proof.

              That’s very wonderful but, kinda sketchy at the same time?

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                  8 months ago

                  It’s not a metaphor relating to those. You can substitute the apple for anything you like, the fruit is not a relevant object. It just carries similar properties. They can be called ‘Notexistilandia’, ‘United Territories of Nowhereon’ or ‘Countrystan’. Whatever helps.

                  You’re very close with Chomsky and people not knowing!

                  What I mean is that the mystical prophecies of one true holy and pure — despite the evidence, like we’ve discussed, rely much on faith, instead of (and sometimes contrary) to knowledge. And general populations “knowledge”, fooled, propagandized is just that — much closer to faith.

                  More Chomsky:

                  I think irrational belief is a dangerous phenomenon, and I try to consciously avoid irrational belief. On the other hand, I certainly recognize that it’s a major phenomenon for people in general, and you can understand why it would be. It does, apparently, provide personal sustenance, but also bonds of association and solidarity and a means for expressing elements of one’s personality that are often very valuable elements. To many people it does that. In my view, there’s nothing wrong with that. My view could be wrong, of course, but my position is that we should not succumb to irrational belief.

                  Idealistic nationalist supremacy is just a form of religion.

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        8 months ago

        Modded as misinfo, worth to check the modlog… There were no links to any fake news sites nor information commented, just a realization that apparently all reports of even different cases can’t possibly have any truth to them.

        Trump’s lawsuits could be an allegory. There’s so many of them and similarly all of them have to be fake I guess. No fire where there’s smoke

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          8 months ago

          Thanks for replying but I would really appreciate if you mentioned the specific topic or the context. I’m having quite some trouble understanding your previous comment without context.

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              8 months ago

              You were referring to something by saying “it”. I just want to understand the context. I mean no offence. I apologise if my comments came across in any unintentional way. English isn’t my first language.

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                8 months ago

                There is nothing to get. If you don’t understand that’s a good thing. You will be happier not knowing.