Dmitry Peskov, press secretary of the Russian dictator, has said that the task of the aggressor country on the so-called�demilitarisation� of Ukraine has allegedly been largely fulfilled.
This is pretty much how Bush & USA justified pre-emptive strikes against non-existent WMDs. Russia don’t need to see their neighbors as friendly instead of neutral, and they definitely don’t need to conquer them just in case.
This is not a debate, nor was anything I said unrelated. US is as western as it gets and my comment shows contempt towards such actions. The same logic applies to both cases of unjustified per-emptive attacks.
That’s not whataboutism, both are wrong by the exact same standard, in America’s case we should have worked with the international community to ensure Iraq was unable to make progress in WMDs (if that’s what we actually cared about).
In russia’s case they could just be nicer to their neighbors.
If I abuse my wife and she leaves me for someone else, that’s not the fault of the wife or other man, that’s on me.
Bro did you even read the initial comment and my long answer to that? My whole point was that russia, was put into a geopolitical corner and had to react out of material reasons, independent of their leadership. You come up with “be nice to your neighbors” as if the USA doesn’t meddle with their peripheral states and tries to put up bases there. LOL I wish I could see the world as simple as darth vader vs luke skywalker like you do
They attacked Georgia in 2008, they attacked ukraine in 2014.
This is why nobody likes them and everybody wants to see them suffer, this is why so many countries were happy to give ukraine weapons if it meant Russian invaders would die.
Russia is a bully nation, and we get to watch that most beautiful moment, when the bullied stands up and blasts their bully in the face with a himars.
Putin won’t last through the year, the thunder run destroyed his aura of invulnerability, I look forward to watching him do his Nick II impression.
Putin wasn’t ‘put in a position’, he’s the ruler of Russia, he has agency, and now we get to watch the Russian people pay the price for his stupidity.
By russia.
They attacked Georgia in 2008, they attacked ukraine in 2014.
Did you read my initial comment? You don’t even reply to anything and just ignore the coup by the US in 2014 and the military training of Ukrainian Neo-nazis the following 8 years, while stating Russia is their #1 enemy. Yes that’s right, the West pumped nationalism and weapons into Ukraine way before 2022.
This is why nobody likes them and everybody wants to see them suffer, this is why so many countries were happy to give Ukraine weapons if it meant Russian invaders would die.
“So many” countries like the G7 told by the US to donate? They are barely 10% of the world population. The US gives weapons to Ukraine because they use them as a stick to punch and weaken Russia, while using Ukrainians as flesh to achieve this. They don’t care what Ukraine will be after the war, the support will only last until the US thinks it weakened Russia enough. If you don’t like Russia, then fight yourself instead of sending them into safe death.
Russia is a bully nation, and we get to watch that most beautiful moment, when the bullied stands up and blasts their bully in the face with a himars.
Bruh they use Himars to shell hospitals and city centers that are still Ukrainian and a good amount of them lives there. The Ukrainian nazis killed probably more civilians of their own than the invaders, and you call that a “beautiful moment”.
Putin won’t last through the year, the thunder run destroyed his aura of invulnerability, I look forward to watching him do his Nick II impression.
I agree, that would be good but not worth a try for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives in exchange, especially if you don’t even know for sure if that will be the outcome. Typical lib, cheering the death of people in general.
Putin wasn’t ‘put in a position’, he’s the ruler of Russia, he has agency, and now we get to watch the Russian people pay the price for his stupidity.
Where do you think Putins power comes from? The oligarchs in Russia fear his force powers like from Darth Vader or what? Also then what is your big plan? You remove him, you run elections like in the 90s again, you get Yelson 2, after ten years you get another Putin 2 that again will resist the West. Did you even read my initial comment? My whole point was that is not the decision of one man because life is not Lord of the Rings, and then you reply by the great man theory, which is based on idealism. Like I said, until the West does not change it foreign policy towards Russia, the Oligarchy of Russia will put up people like Putin up and pursue similar politics.
I am convinced that you are just a racist that thinks Russia has Putin and is evil because of their DNA or something. That’s why you refuse to accept any material analysis of the geopolitics behind and blame it on one leadership.
This is pretty much how Bush & USA justified pre-emptive strikes against non-existent WMDs. Russia don’t need to see their neighbors as friendly instead of neutral, and they definitely don’t need to conquer them just in case.
nice whataboutism.
Doesn’t fit into the definition of whataboutism
What you said was completely unrelated and now you want to debate a different box. Classic western disinformation
This is not a debate, nor was anything I said unrelated. US is as western as it gets and my comment shows contempt towards such actions. The same logic applies to both cases of unjustified per-emptive attacks.
That’s not whataboutism, both are wrong by the exact same standard, in America’s case we should have worked with the international community to ensure Iraq was unable to make progress in WMDs (if that’s what we actually cared about).
In russia’s case they could just be nicer to their neighbors.
If I abuse my wife and she leaves me for someone else, that’s not the fault of the wife or other man, that’s on me.
Bro did you even read the initial comment and my long answer to that? My whole point was that russia, was put into a geopolitical corner and had to react out of material reasons, independent of their leadership. You come up with “be nice to your neighbors” as if the USA doesn’t meddle with their peripheral states and tries to put up bases there. LOL I wish I could see the world as simple as darth vader vs luke skywalker like you do
Russia was put in a geopolitical corner.
By russia.
They attacked Georgia in 2008, they attacked ukraine in 2014.
This is why nobody likes them and everybody wants to see them suffer, this is why so many countries were happy to give ukraine weapons if it meant Russian invaders would die.
Russia is a bully nation, and we get to watch that most beautiful moment, when the bullied stands up and blasts their bully in the face with a himars.
Putin won’t last through the year, the thunder run destroyed his aura of invulnerability, I look forward to watching him do his Nick II impression.
Putin wasn’t ‘put in a position’, he’s the ruler of Russia, he has agency, and now we get to watch the Russian people pay the price for his stupidity.
Did you read my initial comment? You don’t even reply to anything and just ignore the coup by the US in 2014 and the military training of Ukrainian Neo-nazis the following 8 years, while stating Russia is their #1 enemy. Yes that’s right, the West pumped nationalism and weapons into Ukraine way before 2022.
“So many” countries like the G7 told by the US to donate? They are barely 10% of the world population. The US gives weapons to Ukraine because they use them as a stick to punch and weaken Russia, while using Ukrainians as flesh to achieve this. They don’t care what Ukraine will be after the war, the support will only last until the US thinks it weakened Russia enough. If you don’t like Russia, then fight yourself instead of sending them into safe death.
Bruh they use Himars to shell hospitals and city centers that are still Ukrainian and a good amount of them lives there. The Ukrainian nazis killed probably more civilians of their own than the invaders, and you call that a “beautiful moment”.
I agree, that would be good but not worth a try for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives in exchange, especially if you don’t even know for sure if that will be the outcome. Typical lib, cheering the death of people in general.
Where do you think Putins power comes from? The oligarchs in Russia fear his force powers like from Darth Vader or what? Also then what is your big plan? You remove him, you run elections like in the 90s again, you get Yelson 2, after ten years you get another Putin 2 that again will resist the West. Did you even read my initial comment? My whole point was that is not the decision of one man because life is not Lord of the Rings, and then you reply by the great man theory, which is based on idealism. Like I said, until the West does not change it foreign policy towards Russia, the Oligarchy of Russia will put up people like Putin up and pursue similar politics.
I am convinced that you are just a racist that thinks Russia has Putin and is evil because of their DNA or something. That’s why you refuse to accept any material analysis of the geopolitics behind and blame it on one leadership.