• Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    There’s no way to sugarcoat it: in order to extract milk you must r— the cow and then kill its baby, then if you don’t milk them, they die.

    The treatment of animals is so bad that b-------ty laws have literally failed to pass because they would have criminalized the whole industry, and that’s not even to mention the times when people who call out overt, malicious abuse suffer more consequences than the ones doing it.

    Basically; the sooner we shut the system down the better. It’s unsustainable and only being held together by subsidies anyway.

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      7 months ago

      Rape the cow and kill the baby? Lol what planet are you on? Most farms have a bull… and “killing the baby”, you mean like later in life to eat?

      If you don’t milk them they die? No… They stop producing milk

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          Even with meat cows, the average farmer pays for an outside stud, who’s some really elite show animal that fucks all day, and that it is hoped will generate really fast growing, tasty offspring.

          If you don’t do that, either you’re ranching wrong, or you own the stud and rent it to other people.

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        and “killing the baby”, you mean like later in life to eat?

        At least in the Netherlands, the species of dairy cows are focused on dairy. If a bull is born it is raised for about half a year, then slaughtered and most often the meat is exported since calf meat isn’t popular here.

        At that point they are basically still babies, or at least the meat is called “calf meat”.

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        Did you just want to bingo falsehoods? Or did you want to provoke people into providing links for every claim? Either way, you succeeded I guess.

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          If this was a use of Cunningham’s law, it was very well done. It really read like someone regurgitating all the stuff the animal farming industry can’t legally say (because it’s false) but implies really hard in advertising.

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        What happens if you don’t milk a dairy cow?

        Not milking a dairy cow, can cause a lot of problems. A dairy cow will produce about 8 gallons or 30 litres a day. Adding to the problem of not milking is the missing calf, as they are normally kept separately to ensure higher milk yields.

        If you stop milking this cow altogether, milk production will continue until the pressure starts to build up. This process normally starts a dry up phase, which will prevent the cow from producing more milk.

        Because of modern breeding practices, it’s impossible for dairy cows to dry up naturally in a high production phase before facing serious problems. As, extending this phase increase the milk output of a cow, making it more profitable to keep this state as long as possible.

        For those cows, stopping to milk them will cause the udder to increase is size until it can not expand any further. This cow will be in serious pain at this point. Caused by the enormous size of the udder it will also be in the way of everyday activities, preventing the cow from properly standing, sitting or laying.

        If pressure still isn’t released then the udder can rupture or get infected. Ultimately leading to the death of the cow, if she is not treated and pressure is released.

        https://farmityourself.com/what-happens-if-you-dont-milk-cows/

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        A lot of baby cows are just straight up kidnapped from mom and killed. No way around that. Some are raised to adulthood, but on most dairy operations the kidnapping still happens even then, otherwise the calf ends up drinking the farmer’s ‘product’ and cutting into profits. Look up footage of a calf being taken from its mom in this process. Absolutely fucking devastating.

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        7 months ago

        The problem is that one side is running on facts, the other side is running on "nuh-uh I like things the way they are"s

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        From personal observation, non-meat farm animals are lean, sinewy and taste like shit. I’m not actually sure what they do with the calves but it’s not growing them as normal meat cows.

        Also, how does eating the corpse make killing more (or less) okay?

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      From personal observation, non-meat farm animals are lean, sinewy and taste like shit. I’m not actually sure what they do with the calves but it’s not growing them as normal meat cows.

      Also, how does eating the corpse make killing more (or less) okay?