• Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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    I suggest you read the bill. It isn’t a tik tok ban. It’s actually quite a good piece of legislation.

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      It is a vague and sprawling piece of legislation that gives money to Israel and Ukraine, makes Fentanyl more illegal, makes money laundering for fentanyl more illegal, allows seizure and use if Russian assets, restricts “foreign adversaries” from distributing and maintaining apps, restricts “foreign adversaries” from transferring data away from the US, and makes Iranian terrorism more illegal.

      It does like 3 things that are fine, but these should all be different bills (the data transfer bits, seizing Russian assets, and sending aide to Ukraine, though that is getting iffy)

      It IS a TikTok band and explicitly names ByteDance and TikTok, and also vaguely defines foreign adversaries to the point where it could be any person operating in a country that the US doesn’t like.

      “Quite a good piece of legislation” is only true if you mean quite as sprawling and good as ill defined

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        “sending aide to Ukraine, though that is getting iffy”

        This tells me everything I need to know. That you would even say something like this means you have no idea what you’re talking about.

        Additionally, you realize that those are all separate bills, right?

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          This tells me everything I need to know. That you would even say something like this means you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          Really? Just writing someone off without even hearing why?

          Looks like I was mis-remembering Zelenskyy talking about moving troops into Russia, so that is the part I was iffy on. I never said they should not get the aide

          Additionally, you realize that those are all separate bills, right?

          It is one bill with 13 divisions called H.R 8038. The TikTiok part was fast tracked as an addendum to the bill. I can’t find any other bill related to it, and that is one referenced in most news outlets that I can see, but if you have more info I would love to read it.

          But even if that has evolved into it’s own separate bill, that doesn’t change the fact that “foreign adversary” is poorly defined to the point where it can be anyone residing in a country deemed as an adversary. That means even say a rando in Cuba puts out an app with no ties to the Cuban government it would be illegal to have that app in the US. The bill also still names TikTok explicitly, so it is still a TikTok ban (with the exception that they sell, which they are unlikely to do).