- cross-posted to:
- uspolitics@lemmy.world
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- uspolitics@lemmy.world
Hello everyone! Today we’re talking about the pro-Palestinian anti-war encampment protests which have begun in college campuses around the country, and the effectiveness of such live-in protests.
Yes let’s keep protesting another country thousands of miles away lol. Totally effective when that country has stated they will do what they need to do to keep their people safe.
It is hard to blame them after Oct 7th.
They’re Americans protesting the American government’s financial and diplomatic support of Israel as well as the investments in the Israeli economy that their universities hold, what are you talking about?
Protests are effective, especially when given enough time. If they weren’t, there wouldn’t be such an extensive history of governments doing all they can to nip them in the bud.
So there’s 2 million Palestinians. How many should we be ok with killing?
Apparently all of them, according to Israel’s supporters.
None, but we should fight the terror group that hides behind them and within them until they get the hostages back, especially the women and children they still hold for almost a year.
So is the best way to do that is to bomb and kill 35,000 women and children, in your opinion? Can’t think of any better way that could be done?
You do know that a lot of those 35K are a lot of terrorists, or freedom figthers or militants, or whatever you want to call them, right?
The best way to do it is to be very careful to hit as less civilians as possible with the situation that Hammas deliberately created. Theres a reason IDF invented the roof knocking technique.
Except in real life the majority of this number are civilians. We know at least two thirds are civilians, and at least one third of this number are children.
So I’ll ask you, again, is the best way to “fight terrorism” or whatever to bomb and kill 35,000 women and children, in your opinion?
YOU know that at least two thirds are children. I dont know that. In fact I know that at least 15k hammas members were killed. Because we know that all northern gaza and central gaza hammas brigades were obliterated. So someone is making up numbers. We also have thousands of videos of confirmed militants with weapons blowing up. So again something doesn’t add up with the 35k civilians killed.
The way to fight terrorism in my opinion is to bomb the terrorist organization’s members to smithereens wherever they are, to catch as some them alive to get more intelligence of them. And with all that said to minimize as much as possible collateral damage, like make thousands of phone calls a day to civilians to warn them to run away. To knock the roofs of buildings to warn them, to let them pass to safe zones while screening them with technology. To have a robust intelligence system that identifies civilians and filters them out as much as possible.
All of this is already happening and should happen more.
This is war against the most brutal terrorist organization in the world. An organization that deliberately hides among civilians. And thus its going to be brutal. But necessary.
Hopefully no more civilians die and Sinwar and all his accomplices end up in pieces. And all the hostages are returned alive and well. (We know most of them are already dead)
Please do a few googles about “Israel AI targeting,” and educate yourself. Pay special attention to the allowable number of civilian deaths in order to kill 1 Hamas member. Go read up on that can then come back and we can discuss, because you do not know what you’re talking about.
We also have videos of IDF shooting people trying to reach food drops. And video of IDF bombing a fucking aid convoi 3 times before completely destroying it. We have Videos of the idf entering a hospital, pointing at shift list and claiming they found concrete evidence of terrorists. The IDF shot 3 hostages, thinking they were hamas. Why? Because they wore gazan clothing. The IDF does currently not distinguish between civilians and combatants. By virtue of living in gaza, you are a target. That approach failed in Afghanistan, that approach failed in Vietnam and that approach will fail in Gaza. And good fucking luck convincing the remaining gazans not to join a terrorist org when they have seen their families getting blown to shit by a country that says: “we will turn your city into a parking lot. You are animals. You are less than human.”
God fucking damn it, we have never defeated terrorism by bombing their civilian base to shit.