Let me explain the question:

If fox news and religious propaganda are exactly that, propaganda, then they are victims.

If, however, every person is free to listen to what they want and then rant against liberals, migrants, Muslims, Arabs, trans, gays, atheists, you name it, then they are just gullible.

I’d have more patience for a victim than a gullible person.

Everybody is free to believe what they want to believe. What I don’t get is why they have to stir things up and why they believe they are the only ones getting it and everyone else is dumb, woke, a communist or is going to hell. Why can’t they keep their opinions to themselves?

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    People should grow up and take responsibility for their lives.

    That’s the main thing.

    A grown up, responsible person can have opinions, and can change their opinions.

    A grown up, responsible person can spend their day as they want, and can also understand that it is probably unhealthy to watch news a whole day long.

    A grown up, responsible person can utter a rant when it feels neccessary, and can also apologize afterwards if someone got hurt from it.

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      People should grow up and take responsibility for their lives.

      We SHOULD all get free unicorns too.

      But if you actually want to fix the problem, as opposed to just should’ing it, that requires that we see these people as victims. And this means we don’t blame the victim, we help them with their situation.

      The wonderful part about the train of thought that you’ve started, is that eventually you realize that people not only need to take responsibility for their own lives, but also need to take responsibility for the society they impose on other people’s lives. And if we’re unhappy with that society, we have to actively do something about it. That is our responsibility. Just as much as it’s our responsibility to fix ourselves.

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      People should grow up and take responsibility for their lives.

      This is something on I don’t agree at all with liberals. When people are manipulated by cult-like technique (or even (social) media optimized to give their brain a fix of dopamine) it’s not about their individual responsiblity but the responsiblity of the assholes manipulating them.

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          No. But I am responsible for my own and my friends and family’s safety.

          So what is right, is it to let these be free to indoctrinate themselves into hating me and my fellow humans and spreading harmful beliefs until theres no room for our kind? Or is it to police what they are allowed to consume and become the fascist I didnt want these gullible fools to become? Also if we did, how long until someone turned it around on us: Declared themselves the less gullible ones and worthy of policing what we should watch?

          Assuming most humans means well and want good, we’d always outnumber and outvote those who are fool enough to believe in the hate. But seeing politicians who demonstrately and openly want the worst towards certain people, somehow manage to get voted into leadership of one of the most influental countries in the world… It has shaken my belief in that tolerance will win out in a democracy.