First time I’m hearing about “vaccine injured” meaning they think a vaccine caused autism or something. When I read the post, with the context, I thought it meant like a physical injury that someone with special needs might suffer if they moved around during a vaccine. It’s actually disgusting that this person wrote a story likely about a kid with some form of neurodivergence and called toted them as a “vaccine injured child”.
Very likely that’s the one. I know someone who used to believe it had a significant link to Autism when injected to the mother during pregnancy.
They now acknowledge this is not the case, but have implied that they still suspect a link might exist to some medicine that military hospitals were administering to mothers around the year 2000.
I’ve no evidence for or against. But there is undeniably a link to military service of one or both parents. That’s the only definitive I have about ASD. That, and of course that anyone who self-diagnoses themselves with it is mentally unwell in a whole different way.
There is a link between car exhaust during pregnancy and autism. For some reason nobody wants to bother with pollution, but keep doubling down on vaccines causing autism. It doesn’t seem like autism is actually the issue for them.
I agree. And this recent wave of vaccine denial is simply about just that, the denial and this absurd fear that one needs to be “unadulterated” by whatever is supposedly going on.
I say it smells like Kremlin successfully fooling right wing idiots in an attempt to dwindle the number of able-bodied constituents to make their goals easier to achieve. But I’ve no evidence for this, just like right wing idiots have no evidence vaccines cause anything like what they claim.
Autism though, I simply mention when vaccines come up as that speculation predates the current anti-vaccine mass hysteria, because even if debunked I would still feel its arguments were more plausible than anything the Non-Equine Ivermectin Ingestors could come up with.
And honestly, Autism could be linked to so many things. Radiation, microplastics, magnetic fields, fish, exercise, the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, you name it. The fact of the matter is that modern science still knows jack shit about Autism as it does a frightening number of prevalent mental conditions, because it’s only in modernity that we’ve even realized the general shape and scope of them. And the most expertise we have in treatment is behavioral therapies and dietary restrictions/supplements.
What’s scary though is hearing people with power say they yearn for the day we can eradicate ASD through gene editing, without a solid understanding of what ASD even is. And yes, that is something I have heard from someone with sway, in complete and unwavering sincerety…
It actually just doesn’t stay in the blood for as long and the toxicological effects of ethyl mercury haven’t really been studied very well. A paper looking at ethyl (the kind from thimerosal breakdown) and methyl mercury poisoning in baby monkeys found much greater inorganic mercury buildup in the brain from ethyl mercury during the sacrificial autopsies, both in absolute and relative terms. There’s not been a longitudinal study about ethyl mercury in humans, so I really don’t know how you can be so sure about this. The vaccination schedule undergone by infants regularly exceeded the EPA’s blood-mercury limits by up to 10x until as recently as 1999. Nobody has ever been investigated, nor have damages been allowed to be sought in court. If this was any other medicine we’d be able to have a level headed conversation about it, but because it’s vaccines everybody gets really fucking hyper abt it. BTW I’m fully vaccinated and recommend vaccination for evrybody who is physically able. Not a doctor by any means, and would be very interested in learning more about the scientific literature on this subject as I’ll be the first to admit my knowledge is shallow.
It looks suspiciously like a pay-for-award company that gives out awards to just about any product for parents/educators/related to children or parenting, as long as you pay the “application fee” (although they specifically say an award isn’t guaranteed).
I mean looking at their website they seem to give out an awful lot of awards, and they mention that for $500, you’ll get to use their award seal on your product and receive 100 award stickers, and for $1,500 you get more stickers, plus they’ll post about your product on their website.
Call me crazy, but I’d think that if an award isn’t guaranteed, they’d make you pay for the initial application to start with, and then (assuming you “win” an award) they’d offer to promote your product for an additional payment, once they’ve decided that you’re eligible. The fact that they talk so openly about how paying a larger application fee gets you promoted on their site (and some other stuff) makes it seem suspiciously like a pay-for-award scheme to me.
For Level Two applications that don’t meet the criteria for an award, a refund is
issued for the licensing portion of the application fee less any applied discounts.
An award is not guaranteed. Marketing and publicty benefits are
only extended to applicants who meet the criteria for the award.
Apparently they’ll only feature you if you’re eligible for an award and refund you the enhanced part of the application if you’re product is ineligible. They do have the criteria for eligibility further down the page and it seems pretty open to interpretation.
First time I’m hearing about “vaccine injured” meaning they think a vaccine caused autism or something. When I read the post, with the context, I thought it meant like a physical injury that someone with special needs might suffer if they moved around during a vaccine. It’s actually disgusting that this person wrote a story likely about a kid with some form of neurodivergence and called toted them as a “vaccine injured child”.
It’s from a long debunked paper. Anyone claiming any correlation between vaccines and autism is willfully ignorant at this point.
Not only is it debunked, it was a downright fraudulent paper.
Curious and completely naive to this, but was this ever debunked? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27473827/
I haven’t kept up with this and undecided entirely on what I believe.
Not to my knowledge, but anyone trying to link it to vaccines would also be full of shit.
Yeah I can agree with that, at least in respect to modern vaccines. No idea about older vaccines, but likely not.
Thimerosal in vaccines doesn’t cause mercury poisoning. It’s still in modern flu vaccines. I assume that’s the link you’re trying to draw.
Very likely that’s the one. I know someone who used to believe it had a significant link to Autism when injected to the mother during pregnancy.
They now acknowledge this is not the case, but have implied that they still suspect a link might exist to some medicine that military hospitals were administering to mothers around the year 2000.
I’ve no evidence for or against. But there is undeniably a link to military service of one or both parents. That’s the only definitive I have about ASD. That, and of course that anyone who self-diagnoses themselves with it is mentally unwell in a whole different way.
There is a link between car exhaust during pregnancy and autism. For some reason nobody wants to bother with pollution, but keep doubling down on vaccines causing autism. It doesn’t seem like autism is actually the issue for them.
I agree. And this recent wave of vaccine denial is simply about just that, the denial and this absurd fear that one needs to be “unadulterated” by whatever is supposedly going on.
I say it smells like Kremlin successfully fooling right wing idiots in an attempt to dwindle the number of able-bodied constituents to make their goals easier to achieve. But I’ve no evidence for this, just like right wing idiots have no evidence vaccines cause anything like what they claim.
Autism though, I simply mention when vaccines come up as that speculation predates the current anti-vaccine mass hysteria, because even if debunked I would still feel its arguments were more plausible than anything the Non-Equine Ivermectin Ingestors could come up with.
And honestly, Autism could be linked to so many things. Radiation, microplastics, magnetic fields, fish, exercise, the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, you name it. The fact of the matter is that modern science still knows jack shit about Autism as it does a frightening number of prevalent mental conditions, because it’s only in modernity that we’ve even realized the general shape and scope of them. And the most expertise we have in treatment is behavioral therapies and dietary restrictions/supplements.
What’s scary though is hearing people with power say they yearn for the day we can eradicate ASD through gene editing, without a solid understanding of what ASD even is. And yes, that is something I have heard from someone with sway, in complete and unwavering sincerety…
It actually just doesn’t stay in the blood for as long and the toxicological effects of ethyl mercury haven’t really been studied very well. A paper looking at ethyl (the kind from thimerosal breakdown) and methyl mercury poisoning in baby monkeys found much greater inorganic mercury buildup in the brain from ethyl mercury during the sacrificial autopsies, both in absolute and relative terms. There’s not been a longitudinal study about ethyl mercury in humans, so I really don’t know how you can be so sure about this. The vaccination schedule undergone by infants regularly exceeded the EPA’s blood-mercury limits by up to 10x until as recently as 1999. Nobody has ever been investigated, nor have damages been allowed to be sought in court. If this was any other medicine we’d be able to have a level headed conversation about it, but because it’s vaccines everybody gets really fucking hyper abt it. BTW I’m fully vaccinated and recommend vaccination for evrybody who is physically able. Not a doctor by any means, and would be very interested in learning more about the scientific literature on this subject as I’ll be the first to admit my knowledge is shallow.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1382668919301875
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280342/
Who the company that actually gave this book a fucking reward?
It looks suspiciously like a pay-for-award company that gives out awards to just about any product for parents/educators/related to children or parenting, as long as you pay the “application fee” (although they specifically say an award isn’t guaranteed).
I mean looking at their website they seem to give out an awful lot of awards, and they mention that for $500, you’ll get to use their award seal on your product and receive 100 award stickers, and for $1,500 you get more stickers, plus they’ll post about your product on their website.
Call me crazy, but I’d think that if an award isn’t guaranteed, they’d make you pay for the initial application to start with, and then (assuming you “win” an award) they’d offer to promote your product for an additional payment, once they’ve decided that you’re eligible. The fact that they talk so openly about how paying a larger application fee gets you promoted on their site (and some other stuff) makes it seem suspiciously like a pay-for-award scheme to me.
I had heard of diploma mills before, but not award mills.
Haven’t you heard about the Guinness Records?
Apparently they’ll only feature you if you’re eligible for an award and refund you the enhanced part of the application if you’re product is ineligible. They do have the criteria for eligibility further down the page and it seems pretty open to interpretation.