Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post, thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
the voice for OpenAIās Sky got taken offline because they tried to copy Scarlett Johanssonās voice for it (she voiced the AI in Her) after she repeatedly told them no (via this mastodon post which links the original NPR article):
HN incorrecting themselves on celebrity personality rights
now you might think this is an issue of settled case law, but the computer brain boys are confident in their version of how things work
now you might think this is an issue of settled case law, but the computer brain boys are confident in their version of how things work
Are we talking about blockchain crimes again?
yes, thatās right
Man I miss n-gate
weāre n-gate but nicer
what happened, the guy got bored and left? I miss it too :(
Itās nice to know we have looped back to the point in history where we casually consider which people should have agency over their reproductive rights. Oh wait, no itās not nice at all, but somehow still totally acceptable and commonplace.
You should watch the movie Idiocraty.
Grim stuff in that thread.
Sorry, im a habitual contrarian about this movie (good for that poster that they commit to not do an idiocracy and use tools that helps people, for example searching for the name of a movie), but reminder that that movie is basically utopian as it takes place 500 years in the future, and the American way of life is still going strong, and the problem of the food crisis is basically solved in a week.
I think that the movie is just a shallow criticism of Bush-era conservativism and 90s ātrash TVā (that was already in decline by this time). Interrogating the implications of its scifi premise feels like not meeting the movie where itās at, which is an optimism (alien to me) that the USA is fundamentally sound and only needs a nominally reasonable Joe American to keep the levers of power away from Those Guys.
It is. It isnāt that deep I know, just wanted to point out a small thing which the people who hyperfocus on the semi-eugenics argument seem to always miss in the ācbt (link SFW, some links on that page are not however) is funnyā movie.
Also someone bringing up āpopulation collapseā which is a recent(?) right-wing/techbro trope. Everything about everyone expressing worries about āsub replacement birth ratesā screams āwe must prevent people with wombs from making their own decisions about whether to have kidsā.
A good portion of online rw politics is just a desparate cry for pussy blanketed with callous dogma.
I donāt know anything about evolution or genetics, and Iām pretty sure this guy doesnāt either. Why would everyone become disabled because more disabled people survive and pass on their genes to their kids? We donāt stone gingers to death and yet we are not all having red-headed kids.
The repeated use of the word āweakā (as opposed to āsickā or ādisabledā) seems revealing.
I canāt say for sure that he thinks of genetics as bloodlines, and is concerned about its purity, but I can have my suspicions.
extremely weird shit across the board from that user. account claims to be ā18Mā and running āmanjaro and mintā, and then has a shell on sdf.org? along with the posts, āYes, Iād prefer not being resuscitated. If I am finally dead, let it stay that wayā just from that thread (and a number of other choice entries elsewhere in their history)
like come the fuck on, can it be more sus
How is having an SDF account weird? Because itās for olds? Or theyāre hardcore BSDers?
just fishy in aggregate. I wouldnāt say so much ābecause for oldsā as āitās far more likely for old(er)s to want something like thatā. combine that with the wide array of other posts the account has engaged with, and the bio just wholly looks like bullshit to me
I mean I did fuck around on some public VAX hosted things and such in the early 00s, so itās not impossible for this to be a true thing, but yeah. just smells off
I agree that itās fishy in this instance, but dig around in the āsmol webā subculture (gemini protocol, etc) and youāll find plenty of youngs who live in shellsā¦ cf. tilde.town
Oh yeah, I know about those :) it was more specifically about this exact instance indeed
A well-respected terminal emulator for the Mac decides to slather on AI sauce, and most users are not happy. But there are others who are outraged that slathering AI sauce onto a product is even seen as a negative. Letās take a break from HN to take a look at the tortured souls on lobste.rs who wonāt let this aggression stand, man:
https://lobste.rs/s/7aglnr/psa_iterm2_now_has_chatgpt_integration
archive link in case mods decide to nuke it
Personal favs:
This is the sort of hatred and resentment that is uncomfortable to see on a public forum.
Hi, this is the internet, you must be new here.
Iām mostly checked out of here as a result until the mods get it under control.
Donāt let the door hit you on the way out.
Edit as a bonus, hereās the HN discussion. Same situaton there, the promptfondlers are surprised everyone is mad
I donāt like AI hype either but I donāt feel the need to use Lobsters to rally groups of people to mass punish projects who add optional AI-friendly features. That is quite disturbing.
ok. I tried writing something sarcastic and sneery but alas, I donāt think I can mock this person hard enough to satisfy my ethical obligation.
Smearing the developer as āai-brainedā is hateful.
wake up babe new slur just dropped
Soon they will discover that they can use AI to autogenerate new minority definitions for them and we on the left will be powerless to stop them.
(We will mock them for it, and tell them this new made up thing doesnāt count, but we cannot stop them).
Saw this update yesterday and it pissed me really off. Iāve been using iTerm for almost 20 years at this point and itās a really good and well-integrated terminal application for Mac OS, and no one asked for it to add spicy autocomplete.
Thereās a fork already, lol.
Or maybe Iāll just move over to Alacritty. I use that one my Linux machines and itās actually good, but the attitude of some of the developers when it comes to feature requests and contributions really makes me like it less than I could.
tbh the enforced civility and de facto ban on social issue discussion on lobste is not helping. (but after last āpolite discussionā i had with the moderator iām not going to bring it up anymore, just suspend the account or wait to be banned.)
yeah frankly that sort of shit is why I havenāt even tried to get a lobsters account
bullshit should be called out as bullshit at any point in time. dressing it up in niceties is playing the wrong game, and has been abused by the worst people around for years
Noooooooooooooo! Argh, Iāll have to seriously consider using the fork FML.
EDIT: Not strictly required since apparently you have to provide an API key for it to be enabled, still itās not encouraging that the main developer thought this would be a good idea.
Youāve got to love the prompt jank: https://github.com/gnachman/iTerm2/commit/755dc2ed881d853f495ffaea2498452915e5e8cd?diff=split&w=0
EDIT 2: Given direct access to bad AI code to a dev workstation is bad enough, but given that the console is a primary way to connect to servers, where more havoc could be wrought, this is terrifying, I mean sure devs were already capable of bricking enviromnents, but supercharging āknowing just enough to be dangerousā is NOT a good idea.
for people who thought this might not be related to the llm brainworms, the reasoning of the iterm2 author for inclusion of the feature (when promptedy by @gerikson@awful.systems) :
I got a number of requests. I also got tired of copy-pasting things to ChatGPT. Usually if I find a feature useful, other people do, too.
The latest beta has options to turn the shit off totally. The text mixes metaphors with wild abandon but I think itās safe to say the promptfondling was not huge success
The whole debacle astounds me. Is there a more universally privileged application users frequently use than the shell? As a general rule it can elevate privs to full control far more aggressively than any other commonly used application, with minimal sandboxing at most.
Inorite? Even if there was the requirement of an API key being enabled that was only revealed after some time. If smeone says āmy terminal has GPT nowā of course your mind goes to it outputting
sudo rm -rf /for some random prompt.Edit nevertheless I am thankful because Iāve had a lot of fun identifying promptfondlers on lobste.rs and pointing and laughing at them.
Putting the āevangelistā in product evangelist.
Update 4 days later, the main Karen in charge of the promptfondlers is calling for the banning of users impertinent enough to flag their comments.
thanks for mentioning this, Iām definitely going to have to nack that update and send a gfy mail
query mail sent
hell, if anyone else is curious to also poke:
I presume I'm not the first nor (will I be the last) to ask about this, but for the weight of the argument it's still worth asking are you planning on keeping the openai garbage directly integrated in iterm2? and "just turn it off with a setting" isn't a good answer tbh I don't want it in the terminal I use. I don't want it in any software I touch. openai are a deceptive abuse company led by an abusive liar, and it saddens me to see yet another good thing get taken up in the hype these charlatans drive no "I've been $x for $y" pleading arguments here, I don't want to try bend your ear with any number of platitudes and such you've heard from others - just straight-up asking the above
reporter: This AI development is a Big Dealā¢.
me: y tho?
reporter: Oh, Iām so glad you asked! The AI is IN the computer!
me: y tho?
reporter: To win the race to get AI everywhere the fastest!
me: sorry, y tho?
reporter: Oh my, you sure have a lot of questions! Look, letās not try to make any sense of this. After all, only our tech-daddies have the answers!
me: begins weeping
reporter: Donāt cry! At least weāre all in this together, right???
While AI being āinā a computer might sound as obvious as blue being āinā the sky, this is actually one of those things that is a Big Dealā¢. AI models are normally either downloaded or used online, but Microsoft has just announced an āAI computerā, meaning the technology is in-built. Itās the companyās latest play in the overheated race to see which tech giant can get the most AI into the most places, fastest.
What does it mean? Hard to say! In case you havenāt worked it out yet, this is all one big live experiment, and weāre the rats. Perhaps thereās some comfort in knowing weāll all find out together.
edit: oh no, this is the same author I sneered at for quirkwashing e/acc. nothing personal, I just die a little inside every time I read something like this, and a little death is always better shared!
I started pre-hurting in 2018-2019 when I saw SoC vendors pitch things as AI chips because you could natively run accelerated models on them for speech and image recognition. Yes, really, that was the total pitch. Itās AI because you could run models. Where to train the models, what the total scope of capacity was, total execution space, total throughput, etc? No no, not practically touched at all in those docs
And where I said pre-hurting? At the time I thought āoh godāā¦.you can imagine how quaint that memory feels in retrospect right now
oh yeah doing embedded dev that was always the worst. my RISC-V SoC has an AI accelerator on it! cool, what does the datasheet say it does? TensorFlow lite and nothing else. ok maybe I can use that silicon for something else at least? nope, thereās no documentation on its capabilities or how it works at all, it just does TensorFlow lite. shit well ok, what can I do with TensorFlow lite? you can load the example model weāve provided and make a shitty voice activation trigger or try to train a model but thereās no docs. well fuck me then.
And donāt you dare ask about the intended binary representation, thatās obviously some illegal hacker shit
Just render it out with lite! What do you mean about in 3-5y? Software doesnāt change, you scrub. We have a golden master toolchain right here on our ftp, itās at
ftp://nonssl.http25.pub.norsou-semi-sometimes.xyz/pub/archive/noindexfeel free to download and develop your own applications!
Finally the realization that academia is just an industry producing artifacts (published papers) and not anything as abstract as āscienceā and āknowledgeā gets the tool it deserves
Github - data-to-paper: AI-driven scientific research
Iām sure this will be fine and not cause any issues whatsoever.
I mentioned this in the last weekly thread, but check out the 5th citation in their example paper (the one that says nothing in particular about type 2 diabetes)
T. Schnurr, Hermina Jakupovi, Germn D. Carrasquilla, L. ngquist, N. Grarup, T. Srensen, A. Tjnneland, K. Overvad, O. Pedersen, T. Hansen, and T. Kilpelinen. Obesity, unfavourable lifestyle and genetic risk of type 2 diabetes: a case-cohort study. Diabetologia, 63:1324ā1332, 2020.
I left a HN comment that they got the names wrong for Hermina JakupoviÄ, GermĆ”n D Carrasquilla, Lars Ćngquist, Thorkild SĆørensen, Anne TjĆønneland, and Tuomas O KilpelƤinen. They thanked me for my āthoroughā review (read: I glanced over it for giggles at like 2 AM).
All of AI is just this. A boring personās idea of creativity. A managerās idea of programming. A stupid personās idea of science.
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Not a sneer, and as such NSFW, but here is a short hbomberguy style video: I Debunked Evolutionary Psychology, featuring friend of the sneer PrimalPoly, by the talented mĆ¼necat.
Scam investigator Coffeezilla is working on the Rabbit AI guy, and heās off to a good start. Most of the other press is about the device not working, while this focuses more on the scammy NFT / crypto past of the founder.
the follow-up video is fucking scathing, and Iād like to take a moment to remember all the orange site posters who were fucking wrong when they pretended the rabbit leak was fake
So who is going to be first to set up a grifty EA think tank where the thinking is admittedly all done by LLMs, and why shouldnāt it be us.
Pull a Rabbit AI and use Playwright to operate an Emacs instance running Eliza. Say that buying more infrastructure will yield better results. Pocket the money that was for supposed infrastructure investment. Profit!
Bold of you to think we have not already started doing this to mess with the EA/LW minds. Why do you think we suddenly talk less about all the outrageous weird shit they say on LW? We donāt want to out ourselves. For example
The lumina saga continues. https://trevorklee.substack.com/p/luminas-legal-threats-and-my-about
TL;DR: Lumina guy sent Trevor a mean letter and Trevor has reworded some things to protect against libel. He still stands by the original blog post.
The orange site has some fairly milquetoast opinions.
Surprise Aella reference in those HN comments! (well, surprise that one commenter noted āthe Bay Areaās most overrated escortā, and a replier directly inferred it was her)
Now I wonder if thereās an app rating Bay Area escortsā¦
Itās a well recognized rule that every time Lumina comes up, someone has to mention that Aella is connected to the project. Then, someone must make a joke about Lumina adding anti-toothbrushing to her anti-showering arsenal. HN hasnāt caught up to the last bit yet.
Dude, if the product wasnāt safe, I wouldnāt be using it myself, giving it to my girlfriend, and giving it to my friends.
Love to give off snakeoil salesman vibes in a weird faux friendly legal threat.
Tedium and logorrhea in the substack comments, as intended. I wonder how often people on LW use āink spilledā and ācolumn inchesā to describe themselves.
lol @ this austin chen guy, who seems to be an investor in Lumina, as well as a user of the project going like ādude just get on the phone with him, Iām sure he totally wonāt corner you with threats and such, heās a great guy I swear bro!ā
Kevin Beaumont got access to Copilot+ and hoo boy itās even stupider than it sounds:
I got ahold of the Copilot+ software.
Recall uses a bunch of services themed CAP - Core AI Platform. Enabled by default.
It spits constant screenshots (the product brands then āsnapshotsā, but theyāre hooked screenshots) into the current userās AppData as part of image storage.
The NPU processes them and extracts text, into a database file.
The database is SQLite, and you can access it as the user including programmatically. It 100% does not need physical access and can be stolen.
and the anti-backlash begins, because snapdragons are magical and microsoft has never fucked over its users
you know what really fucking gets me about this thing? even ābeforeā all of the security and DV etc arguments (and, really, they are all valid)
consider the average consumer-human (present version of) windows desktop/laptop/workstation that has survived for more than a year or so without having been re-imaged. those are already often an unusable nightmare of built-up cruft in sticky corners
and now thereās going to be something thatāll do constant capture and analysis every fucking moment itās running?
how the fuck is this not going to go wrong? imagine the first time that sqlite table shits the bed. a dodgy character format goes into it, or a bit of disk corruption hits, or a file locking (lololol) issue hits, or ā¦
I just ā¦ I just really canāt imagine any of this is going to go very well at all in the real world
Iām calling it, when this bullshit gets deployed widely a bunch of absolute shitheads are going to dismiss Kevinās post with āthat was the prototype, they changed everything for the real versionā and the only thing thatāll change is theyāll superficially encrypt the SQLite file
Bit of an update with more from Kevin: https://doublepulsar.com/recall-stealing-everything-youve-ever-typed-or-viewed-on-your-own-windows-pc-is-now-possible-da3e12e9465e
pbccyhf_erpnyy_cevi.db
holy shit this is terrifying. is there any reason the tv is even doing this?
Iād bet on just buggy implementation. my bet is based on the fact that Iāve seen (multiple) hisense TVs do another thing: a MDNS query + publish, with the record having a newline in the fucking record. like,
tvname-{macstring}\n.local.to be clear: they both ask for and answers to that record. to their own request.
there are some extremely hilariously terrible things in a lot of these yoloboxed android solutions
love how the MS shill eventually reaches:
Okay, hereās a question; when has the casual consumer ever cared about privacy?
narcissistās prayer speed-run
every fucking time! and the answer seems to be: they care enough that privacyās a core part of Appleās marketing, but microsoftās core competency is still managing Maslowās hierarchy of needs enough that their users are on average just barely more inconvenienced by switching operating systems than they are dealing with whatever new shitās being sprung on them (and this latest new shitās gone from annoying to actively dangerous, so the tactic is to convince users itās irrelevant to them until itās made mandatory, as Microsoft does, and then the pain of suddenly switching operating systems will be even greater)
27 years of trying to make clippy mandatory and theyāre still fucking at it but surely this time theyāll listen to their users
People simping for Microsoft makes my '90s-kid brain boggle.
As someone who did come to love a lot of microsoft products despite the way I felt about them in the 90ās, their slow slide into whatever they are now makes me hate them more, not less. Microsoft genuinely spent a lot of the oughts making genuinely good general purpose stuff, and they absolutely dominated at accessibility for 20 years. So when people simp for them as they destroy everything I found great about their products, instead of holding them to account, itās awful.
Guess who bought the dictation software I rely on for everything I do and then basically abandoned the useful consumer product and is now sticking gippity-4 into it? Stick it in GitHub, stick it in Windows, add it to your complete breakfast, wear it on your head.
@gnomicutterance @blakestacey the new guard trying to reinvent the world with Windows 11, and completely ignoring multiple screen layouts, doesnāt understand that Windows is a workstation OS.
Or maybe they donāt want that market anymore? Which seems short sighted.My Windows machines have all been skinned to work like XP for 20 years, and sometimes I have to use other peopleās computers and I donāt even understand how they get anything done. My start menu is predictable and the items in it are in the same place and with the same keystrokes every day. Thereās no ads in it. It doesnāt tell me the weather or the sports scores when I donāt ask for them. My taskbar shows me the names of all the windows I have open. This should all be normal.
LOL, the first thing I saw of these new lappys was a breathless Verge article saying āfinally MS will release the Macbook Air killerā and the very next thing is the poisoned chalise that is āyou want a fast efficient Windows machine? well you just have to accept the AI recording everything you do on itā. Fucking own goal.
the incredible efficiency of writing OCRed screenshots to SQLite constantly
so Linux on laptops is frequently a shitshow in terms of power management, but bespoke Linux hardware that comes tuned (like the Steam Deck or laptops from Linux vendors) seems to do a lot better than Windows for efficiency. Iām hoping this is an area where shit gets better for Linux as hardware vendors start to take it more seriously.
well, this hurts in how accurately it hits
so cultish that even the LW comments worry itās cultish - donāt worry about my feet bleeding
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Meanwhile some of the comments are downright terrifying, also the whole āresearchā output is overly-detailed yet lacking any substance, and deeply deeply in fantasy land, but all the comments a debating in favour of or against what is perceived as āreal workā, and in terms of presentation āvibesā.
I mean my parents always said that fascist/cultish movements have issues distinguishing signified and signifier, but good grief. (Yes too much Lacan in the household)
I love the guy who goes in and says ābut you really should give this guy money! I know he has produced absolutely no research or work worthy of a second glance but heās my friend and I promise he SOUNDS suuuuper smart! btw I read the Sequences once. funding now??ā
I wonder what Peter Thiel would think about using disability benefits. Does he fly Ayn Rand style, where itās okay to benefit from it while actively campaigning against it?
None of the commenters seem to think keeping a safe work environment is part of work.
EA overdue to all be wiped out from a disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
Just like everybody else, i understood that reference!
Please hire me for AI safety, I create active work place hazards around me and therefore small children and animals are not safe around me, but I really work hard (unless it is cleaning up).
Wonder if he is single.
This post also reminds me of the story I heard about a brilliant but weird math professor who had a tendency to touch walls when he walked around in the building. Eventually, in supreme cargo cult behavior, students also started to touch walls in an unconscious hope this would improve their math skills. Anyway this guys hopes and dreams to be hired would be shattered if he ever hears the people hiring him are a fan of Taleb.
Good that the communities first reaction is saying this is a mh red flag. (It is also a workplace red flag)
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I have worked with a couple of these eager shitwits over the years, and they are awful. theyāll effortgraft waaaay into a thing that they think is totes the solution, ādeliverā it as ādoneā (aka āhereās a branch that already does all that, we can take it live nowā), which all so handily allows them to frame any questions/criticism/etc as ādonāt you think we need ${problem} to be solved?ā
the. fucking. worst.
sudden flashback to when $eagerdev pushed a branch that implemented
test-infrasteered by ansibleā¦ in which you needed to write secondary, entirely separate, roles/specs for thetest-infrathing to āverifyā(didnāt even try to hook ansible definitions (frankly I wouldnāt want to either (but if ansible werenāt so fucking shit at what it does _that whole thing wouldnāt have been necessary in the first place)))
Back when I used reddit, r/badmathematics would feature weirdos that posted REAMS of shit just like that guyās whiteboard pictures. There, we called them cranks.
Never occurred to them to simply put shoes on.
Shoes arenāt rational
you know what
a not-insignificant element of the TPOT cluster is the ācozyā/āvibesā aspect
and for some reason your reply just made me think the thought āwhile they espouse their shitty views they want to be comfortable, to maximize feeling unchallenged, to really get into itā
on the one hand it feels like an obvious realisation, but I also hadnāt really thought of it specifically like that before
(admittedly Iām briefly jumping from ārats -> postratsā there by referencing the TPOT cluster, but as is known the latter havenāt really changed their beliefs just their rendering)
dunno how to verify any of this, but xooglers who were there for G+ say it absolutely rings true
A friend saw this on LinkedIn.
haha yeah that happened last year sometime
the best shred Iāve seen is ripping it by āAI = 0ā in full math proof
hereās the original:
haha and apparently there was also a 0-equivalence version for crypto (which I just found by trying to find the aboveposted):
not much of a sneer but a passing chuckle:
Received: from <snip>.net (unknown [snip]) Subject: ***SPAM*** Binance Distribution of MyEtherWallet (MEW) Airdropmy spamtrap addresses get these every now and then. Iām still amazed that I get that type of subject line in tyol 2024 - spammers are usually far more agile
the fuck? any of you happened to have seen this?
I donāt know if Iāll get it on my one droid (both because Iāve turned near every setting and tracker and whatnot off in advance, and because ZA - less likely to get shit like that in advance) but loooool
theyāre all just shoving this shit into every damn input control
coming soon: mousegpt?
coming soon: mousegpt?
unfortunately, logitechās ahead of you on that one, and of course itās the type of lazy shit you could design in an afternoon, so that means theyāre gonna sell you a $50 AI Edition mouse:
Logitech Signature AI Edition mouse: $49 @ Logitech
This is a new version of the Logitech M750 wireless mouse that comes with a new teal button on top specifically intended to be used for the AI Prompt Builder. Of course, you could likely remap it using Logitechās software to do whatever you want.
and I realize the article I linked is essentially a paid undisclosed advertisement, but holy fuck:
I just tested Logitechās new shortcut to ChatGPT ā and itās a big time-saver
Get ready to summon ChatGPT with the press of a button
itās a fucking macro key that opens a popover that pastes text into ChatGPT running in a browser get the fuck over yourself
fuck me this is why I make peripherals from components these days instead of buying keyboards and mice fucking laden with this bullshit. when my current (no-name) vertical mouse kicks the bucket Iām gonna have to see what repairable mouse kits are available to replace it
Thank god I can have a button on my mouse to open ChatGPT in Windows. It was so hard to open it with only the button in the taskbar, the start menu entry, the toolbar button in every piece of Microsoft software, the auto-completion in browser text fields, the website, the mobile app, the chatbot in Microsoftās search engine, the chatbot in Microsoftās chat software, and the button on the keyboard.
when my current (no-name) vertical mouse kicks the bucket Iām gonna have to see what repairable mouse kits are available to replace it
If you like trackballs, Ploopy is great. Theyāre open source all the way down, mostly 3D-printable, and actually better than most commercially available trackballs.
They also have a mouse kit, but I canāt speak for that.
theyāve been high on my list to check out! last I checked I donāt think they have a pure kit version, but if the qualityās good then I donāt mind paying for a built version as long as I can replace most of its parts when the time comes
