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  • “When it comes to new equipment, the Eastern European partners will primarily turn to the United States,” said Matthias Wachter, chief defense analyst at the German industry association BDI. “Germany and France have unfortunately disqualified themselves in the eyes of many eastern Europeans by way of their reluctant stance on military support for Ukraine.”

    :>For example, Poland is in line to receive an undisclosed number of Challenger 2 tanks from the U.K. to backfill its supply of T-72 tanks to Ukraine. That’s in addition to the planned purchase of 250 Abrams tanks from the United States in a deal worth almost $5 billion.

    As a result, Poland, once interested in joining the German-French Eurotank development effort, will now be flush with modern tanks for decades to come, Wachter noted.

    Washington has worked for years to get former Warsaw Pact countries to replace their Soviet-era equipment with NATO-compatible kit. A $713 million tranche of aid announced Monday, aimed at Ukraine and its neighbors, is meant to do just that.

    Eastern Europe gives up its old Soviet era weapons, obtains fancy ones from the U.S. Military Industrial Complex.

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/04/28/ukraine-weapon-switcheroos-are-flushing-soviet-arms-out-of-europe/


  • NATO has to assure their members that they would stand by them.

    Ukraine isnt in NATO officially.

    Are you saying NATO wants to give ‘assurance’ to its own members that they’ll provide help if Russia were to enter NATO territory by ‘helping’ a non-NATO country? Don’t you think its a bit ridiculous to give billions of dollars of weapons (thus weakening themselves) to a non-NATO country just to ‘prove’ to its eastern European members that NATO will ‘help’? U.S. already has military bases in Germany, Poland and Baltics, one would think large number of U.S. soldiers just being in Eastern Europe and multiple NATO countries having nuclear weapons would be enough of a deterrence for Russia to not invade.



  • after he said publicly that Ukraine could give up territory to Russia in exchange for Nato membership and an end to the war.

    Key part " in exchange for Nato membership and an end to the war.". NATO didn’t let Ukraine join the last time they asked because NATO is well aware that it could lead to multiple countries having nuclear weapons (U.S., UK and France) going against Russia.

    Why do you think NATO would want to give remaining parts of Ukraine the NATO membership if such a peace agreement where the NATO Ukraine remains in war with Russia? This will result in a very sensitive situation where a NATO member (Ukraine) and Russia are in a frozen war with each other. If Ukraine were to try to take their territory back, it’ll be a war between entire NATO and Russia.

    I believe NATO is well aware of the fact that such a ‘deal’ is not possible.

    Ukraine has consistently called for a restoration of its internationally recognised pre-2014 borders

    What Ukrainian Government ‘wants’ is very unrealistic considering how strong the Russian presence is in Crimea.