• @Emerald@lemmy.world
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    220 days ago

    Even if plants might feel pain, we are certain that animals feel pain. Also if you think for whatever reason that plants feel pain, then, well, a vegan diet uses less plants because its a more efficient food source. Plants feeling pain, whether true or false, isn’t an argument against veganism in any way.

    • @commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      120 days ago

      the crux of the argument that they might feel pain is not that it is wrong, but that it is inevitable, so it cannot be wrong

        • @commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          020 days ago

          when somebody raises the objection that plants feel pain, it’s not an appeal to hypocrisy. it’s a statement of fact whether we can prove it or not. and it’s the premise of a larger argument. that argument goes

          pain is an inevitable facet of food production

          food production is a moral good

          an inevitable facet of food production cannot make food production bad

          therefore

          food production remains a moral good

          your rebuttal was targeted at defending against the accusation of hypocrisy, but the devastating bit has nothing to do with the hypocrisy.

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            20 days ago

            Pain might be an inevitable facet of food production (crop deaths). But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to eliminate as much pain as we reasonably can.


            Pain is an inevitable facet of surgery

            Surgery is a moral good

            an inevitable facet of surgery cannot make surgey bad

            surgery remains a moral good


            The fact that pain is inevitable to surgery doesn’t mean we should stop giving patients anesthesia and pain medication.