• @commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    120 days ago

    the crux of the argument that they might feel pain is not that it is wrong, but that it is inevitable, so it cannot be wrong

      • @commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        020 days ago

        when somebody raises the objection that plants feel pain, it’s not an appeal to hypocrisy. it’s a statement of fact whether we can prove it or not. and it’s the premise of a larger argument. that argument goes

        pain is an inevitable facet of food production

        food production is a moral good

        an inevitable facet of food production cannot make food production bad

        therefore

        food production remains a moral good

        your rebuttal was targeted at defending against the accusation of hypocrisy, but the devastating bit has nothing to do with the hypocrisy.

        • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          Pain might be an inevitable facet of food production (crop deaths). But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to eliminate as much pain as we reasonably can.


          Pain is an inevitable facet of surgery

          Surgery is a moral good

          an inevitable facet of surgery cannot make surgey bad

          surgery remains a moral good


          The fact that pain is inevitable to surgery doesn’t mean we should stop giving patients anesthesia and pain medication.