• AVincentInSpace
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    2 months ago

    Leftists talking about bootstraps? Never thought I’d see the day!

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      “Dolly Parton achieved her success through labor and used that to help other Americans. I prefer that to a guy with social connections using his power to spread racist and sexist tripe in an attempt to usher in fascism.”

      “BOOTSTRAPS”

      ???

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        No, it’s just that I thought people who grew up poor and ended up rich were a myth made up by the borgeoise to tell poor people it was their own fault

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          There’s a saying that humans only understand three probabilities: 0%, 50%, and 100%. So if 90% of people who are rich were born into wealth and 90% of all people are not wealthy, what does that mean?

          Usually the knee-jerk response is to say that it’s equally easy for rich and poor to end up wealthy, or sarcastically claim that it’s supposedly impossible to become wealthy if you were poor.

          Statistically, it’d mean that while 10% of rich people were self-made, they’d only represent 1% of the overall population, meaning it’d be roughly 100 times more likely for someone who wasn’t born wealthy to remain poor.

          These are gross oversimplifications with numbers that are not based on fact, but it’s just a simple example to show that something can be possible in a system where certain people are disadvantaged and it doesn’t detract from the fact that systemic issues exist.

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          Its not impossible but not common. What is common is high wealth individuals and families increasing that wealth with little effort. Its true the first million is the hardest because after that you investments will grow pretty much tax free and as long as you don’t make the mistake of working for a living you won’t pay much tax.

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          Noone says it cant happen if the right opportunities arrives… but it more the fact the opportunities are abysmally rare. But the more wealthy your family is, the more opportunities arises.