Important Update
We’re going to be setting up a fork to maintain some separation, add additional features, and remove references due to raised concerns.
So, we will not be changing software, and will be continuing business as usual.
We’ve forked the repositories and they can be found at these URLs: https://github.com/PawbSocial/lemmy and https://github.com/PawbSocial/lemmy-ui.
You can follow the instructions at https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/contributors/02-local-development.html for setting up a local development environment.
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Hey everyone!
We received feedback that raised concerns regarding the apparent moderation and censorship issues around lemmy.ml, and allegations made by Feditips about the Lemmy developers.
We’d appreciate some feedback from users of our community (users here, or on the Fediverse), furry.engineer, and pawb.fun.
As it stands, we have defederated from one of the more prominent problematic instances, lemmygrad.ml, but haven’t taken any action against lemmy.ml.
So the question stands: Should we continue running Lemmy, or swap to an alternative?
The currently considered alternative would be kbin.pub (example instance: kbin.social) which shares being a FOSS project with full ActivityPub support.
If we continue to run Lemmy, we wouldn’t be opposed to having a forked version that removes certain elements from the UI, such as the donate icon, but, we would require community assistance to maintain this fork.
Receipts:
- Beware by Feditips (recently reposted): https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
- “Expressing concerns about moderation policy on lemmy.ml” - https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199
- Comments in https://lemmy.ml/post/1150805
I’m still new to all this, coming from reddit, but I do have some questions. (Still trying to wrap my head around lemmy, kpub, and the whole “fediverse”)
Would migrating still allow access to other communities (beehaw being one example), or is kpub a completely separated “system” from it? Or is Kpub more of another backend to the same? (Please excuse any mistaken terms, I’m trying my best to articulate)
What would be lost in migrating, if anything?
Yes! ActivityPub is the true “backend” behind everything Fediverse, so any ActivityPub software (Mastodon, Lemmy, and Kpub) are all interconnectable.
Think of ActivityPub as the protocol for transferring data, like Ethernet. Lemmy implements ActivityPub in order to share messages, but is its own software.
The software we’d be running would change, which would mean we’d most likely lose a lot, if not all current data unless we found a way to port it.
One possibility: set up a private kbin node that federates with pawb so it’s at least collecting all our posts and threads. That way there’s at least an archive if we end up migrating.
As it seems that pawb on Lemmy is fairly new, it may be the best time before more gets added and it becomes harder to migrate.
If it can still be “connected”, I don’t see why not to migrate, especially if the creators of Lemmy are supporting those sorts of atrocities.