The opposite. He never had anything to say, he was just a great interviewer.

The problem is he started believing he had something to say, and started talking over guests he disagrees with… The last one I watched the guest spoke for less than 2 minutes before Joe went on a 5+ minute rant about how he didn’t believe it. I can’t even remember what it was about, because the guy didn’t even get to lay out his argument

We got it Joe, you think the world is a magical place and have strong opinions on how humans should interact. Let the science man talk