I have a 10 yo daughter with PDA autism (and ADHD) who decided to refuse her medication in early January. We have noticed a big difference from when she took them so we really want her to get back on them, but nothing we have tried works. Anyone with some experience they want to share? We are grasping for straws at this point. Help

  • SavvyWolf
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    85 months ago

    So I can’t say what your daughter is thinking, but I wonder if there’s some negative experiences and associations here:

    • Given that you’ve tried multiple delivery methods, some of them must have been unpleasant feeling for her.
    • These medications also have unpleasant side effects in the past.
    • Any time she does try to take it, she gets involved in a multihour fight with her parents.
    • She probably doesn’t feel any better with the medication beyond being told that she does.

    Given all of that, taking the medication might be very stressful for her, even if she doesn’t know why.

    While I (autistic, but without pda as far as I know) haven’t taken antidepressants, I have taken things like multivitamins. However, in my experience, actually taking pills is difficult. It’s very unnatural to me to avoid chewing on “food” and swallow things whole. I have to do it quickly before my brain figures out what is going on, and I have to be in a good relaxed headspace. Out of interest, do other autistic people here feel the same?

    I like to think of autism as being overwhelmed all the time. I can’t say that that’s how everyone feels, but that’s how I model it internally. In another comment, you mentioned these issues starting when she changed schools. That’s something that’s overwhelming to any child regardless of their neurotype, even if the new one is better.

    I wonder (and may be wrong) if the school change has made everything more difficult for her, which makes it more difficult for her to take medication (which was already difficult). So she gets stressed and physically feels unable to swallow the pills. And then she feels like you’ve made it a competition that she feels pressured to win (she has two options, “win” or take the meds, and she can’t do the latter).

    Anyway, I’m not a professional healthcare person, just a guy online, so don’t take anything I say too seriously. Just airing out my read on the situation.

    • @spainball@lemmy.worldOP
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      35 months ago

      I greatly appreciate every insight and idea I have gotten here. Im neurotypical myself so all I can do is try my best at understanding, and reach out to places like this to try and get a different perspective.

      While we understand that a school change is difficult (for any child) and the things you mentioned about her previous experiences with meds, we have a hard time finding the connection. It might sound like a very obvious connection, but we have tried so many things to figure it out that the conclusion came pretty much from exclusion. So when you say there might be one still I appreciate that insight, we need to rethink that part.

      • @Avalokitesha@programming.dev
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        35 months ago

        Wild theory: maybe she is unhappy with all the changes and feels like she has no say in anything, and this is the only way how she can get some semblance of agency.

        Did she want the school change? Did she have a say in which school she is going to? Do you believe her when she says she can’t do something, even if it doesn’t make sense to hsyou?

        I’m asking the last question because for 35 years, it was not enough if I told people something is too much or I didn’t like it. They didn’t feel that way, so obviously I was just being difficult. This pattern of accidental gaslighting fucked me up big time.

        I’m still in therapy for that, and I still feel unexplainable resistance to doing some things. Nowadays, with the help of a therapist, I found success in not pushing myself, but instead asking myself why I have this resistance. The key is that I’m willing to drop whatever I’m trying to do.

        So maybe stop pushing and trying to convince her, and find ways where life currently is difficult for her and work with her to make it less difficult. If she is burned out, time may be the best cure.

        • @spainball@lemmy.worldOP
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          15 months ago

          I dont think shes unhappy, but rather overwhelmed. She says that she really likes the new school and wants to go, but just cant.

          Yes, she wanted the school change as well, but also not. She misses her friends, we try to set them up outside of school instead now, but its not the same. She was very involved in the decision to change but not to where, we applied to 3 different ones after interviewing principals and staff at several more and choose based on what they said they could do for our situation. Location as well, so that new friends she makes would be in somewhat close proximity.

          I do believe her, now. But it took some time for me to understand that i really dont understand everything and just have to take her word for it. I have been trying to explain that to her, that i might not always understand, but that i trust her. Its a process for both of us. Im sorry you had to go through that, because what I do understand is that it take a big toll one someone to be gaslit like that.

          Everyone seem to be giving similar advice here, less pushing and let her figure it out, with our help of course. Im just afraid that giving it too much time will leave her behind, in school as well as socially. To be clear, I dont care about grades or performance in school, just that she might loose connection with friends in her age.