As a French, the fact that no white flag was mentioned in these comments like it would have inevitably on reddit shows the quality of the chaps in here.
France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades then the stereotypes and jokes like to make out. I mean that’s not going to stop the English from making fun of France, but they still have nobility like this was 1650 or something.
The French have always been pretty strong. I don’t know what history you read, but they’ve pretty consistently had one of the strongest militaries in the world. Sure, they surrendered quickly on WWII, but the people kept fighting even then when their government was occupied. They were one of the first nations to aid the United States also and have always been pretty active.
Is this all good? Idk. Besides resisting the Nazis after the occupation, I would very much argue much of this is bad (or at best self-serving). It’s nation-state shit. It’s never out of marality. They’re strong though.
I said it was a stereotype. Overcoming that popular stereotype has been a lot harder than actually having a good military. And demonstrating that you have a good military is different than having one at all. Right or wrong, in the minds of many Americans they didn’t start seeming strong until after 9/11.
Yep, you’re right. After a quick search, it looks like the American Revolution started in 1765, and the French Revolution started in 1789.
However, I know French policies and political development had a profound impact on the ideas central to liberal democracies, as it could also be said of American policies and political development.
I don’t really care about glorifying past military victories but rather about the fact that the white flag internet meme appeared when the French government refused to follow the USA into Irak War II. https://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/07/villepin.transcript/
As a French, the fact that no white flag was mentioned in these comments like it would have inevitably on reddit shows the quality of the chaps in here.
France has shown themself to be made of much sterner stuff in the last couple decades then the stereotypes and jokes like to make out. I mean that’s not going to stop the English from making fun of France, but they still have nobility like this was 1650 or something.
Last couple decades? There historically the most winningest military of all time bar none.
Ashencore
/s
You mean Agincourt?
I even look up the spelling…
The French have always been pretty strong. I don’t know what history you read, but they’ve pretty consistently had one of the strongest militaries in the world. Sure, they surrendered quickly on WWII, but the people kept fighting even then when their government was occupied. They were one of the first nations to aid the United States also and have always been pretty active.
Is this all good? Idk. Besides resisting the Nazis after the occupation, I would very much argue much of this is bad (or at best self-serving). It’s nation-state shit. It’s never out of marality. They’re strong though.
I said it was a stereotype. Overcoming that popular stereotype has been a lot harder than actually having a good military. And demonstrating that you have a good military is different than having one at all. Right or wrong, in the minds of many Americans they didn’t start seeming strong until after 9/11.
The English were assroped by the French Normans that they had to rename many common foodstuffs.
Rename or simply discover what food actually is?
That it seems is yet to come.
And then by French Angevins, which was later but left an even bigger impact on the language. So twice.
Wait what fuck the nobility no matter what country
If the Queen was still alive, I’d have had to eviscerate you for that.
But nobody cares about Jug Ears.
What has the queen ever done for you?
WDYM? France has been participating in plenty of undeclared, unofficial and gray zone wars practically since WWII till now.
These change with time. Most of European history the stereotypic image of French people was much tougher than that of Germans.
After 1971 - yeah. Interwar - no. After that - again yes.
EDIT: 1871
Liberté, égalité, fraternité. The Americans learned it from you lot. Might do them well to remember.
Wasn’t the American revolution like a decade before the French one?
Yep, you’re right. After a quick search, it looks like the American Revolution started in 1765, and the French Revolution started in 1789.
However, I know French policies and political development had a profound impact on the ideas central to liberal democracies, as it could also be said of American policies and political development.
You sure wouldn’t hear that from me. French forces have been badass for a long time.
I don’t really care about glorifying past military victories but rather about the fact that the white flag internet meme appeared when the French government refused to follow the USA into Irak War II. https://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/07/villepin.transcript/
I had no idea that’s where those jokes came from, that’s so ridiculous
Fucking good on them. That war was bullshit.
Fun fact: the white flag of surrender became widely known in Europe because people were surrendering to the French.
Y’all fight in the streets better than us. We’ve got no leg to stand on.
Way to ruin it.