• JackGreenEarth
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      Well, in the Bible Satan killed no more than 20 people, and at the command of God at that. God killed millions intentionally.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      John Milton seemed to agree, although I doubt he could have said so directly in 17th century England. He came pretty damn close, though.

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        Milton was a staunch Christian. It was interpretations of Paradise Lost a hundred years or so after it was written by the likes of William Blake, Mary Wollstonecraft, Lord Byron and Shelley that were the formation of Romantic Satanism, which in turn inspired the modern atheistic, compassionate Satanism of today.

    • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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      You can always join The Satanic Temple! Very cool political activism group with sick shirts lmao

          • Leraje
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            I wish there was a way but there’s so much bad stuff and it all kind of interweaves with every other aspect of itself. I could tell you Greaves was a eugenicist who’s made eugenicist, racist, antisemitic, ablist statements in the past but without going through everything else in the video its next to impossible to explain how that impacts on how he operates today.

            Neither of them are good people but I don’t want anyone to just take my word for it - the receipts are at that link.

            • Zoot
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              Be awesome if you could provide some sources beyond a YouTube video. Give us something to read please.

              • Leraje
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                The video has its sources listed in a Google Doc in the description, but if reading rather than video is more your thing (or you’re not keen on using Google stuff - and I get that) there’s also TempleWatcher’s pages on Greaves and Jarry, the two co-owners of TST.

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                  Thank you, ill give these a read when I’ve got some time.

          • @frankspurplewings@lemmy.world
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            I don’t know the specifics and everything I have heard has been third or fourth hand accounts, but apparently the recent drama has been bad and has caused a real upheaval. My local TST group voted to separate from TST and become independent, so now we are working on becoming our own local group. But it takes time to do all the paperwork and stuff.

        • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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          Oh fuck. Gonna have to look at that later, though I’m scared lol

          Added it to my Watch Later, thanks.

          • Leraje
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            82 months ago

            Fair warning: some of it is very disturbing. There’s a lot of quoted racism, antisemitism etc. It’s not an easy watch. If you make it through the whole thing, there’s also some very interesting comments left by current and ex members too.

            • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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              Noooooooooo. I can’t NOT watch it now. These are very disappointing things to hear Sadge

            • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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              Thank you for linking me that video. Just finished it and wow. Disgusted but overall happy to know all that shit and part ways with them. Fuck racists, transphobes, eugenics, fascism and the capitalist underpinnings of TST. *spit

  • @nl4real@lemmy.world
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    Having brain cells is satanic, evidently.

    The effort people make to undermine education only shows how desperately it’s needed.

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      There was one of these tracts from the 70s on evolution, where a christian student authoritatively defeats the stuffy science teacher, with what is demonstrably cherry-picked crap taken out of context.

      At the end, the triumphant, humble-yet-firm student asks a by-now deflated science teacher how is it that protons in the nucleus, with positive charge, don’t fly apart, the teacher shakes his head as he mumbles “I don’t know, I don’t know…”

      I guess the student was implying that little angels kept the protons in place? Or that there are some things that are unknowable?
      As if Quantum Chromodynamics, the Strong Force (and Strong Nuclear Force, slight difference there) and The Standard Model didn’t already exist, as if quarks hadn’t been detected beyond a shadow of a doubt.

      In his profound and cynical dishonesty, seems like Chick in his tract counted on information on the subject not yet being widely available at the time.
      Chew on that one for a minute: Chick counted on the scientific illiteracy of the tract reader. Fanatical zealot that he was.

  • Lord Wiggle
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    So, hell has education, the best music, strippers, drugs, all the cool people, orgies etc. Heaven has boring ignorant church people who find hetero sexuality more important then the love for their own child. So why would I want to go to heaven instead of hell? Christians aren’t presenting a strong case here. When you’re making shit up, why not create a heaven which is awesome instead? With our Holy Noodle, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, heaven consists of beer volcanoes and strippers. Hell consists of beer volcanoes and strippers too, but the beer is passed its expired date and the strippers have STD’s. This is how you promote your fictional afterlife, like it’s better then the alternative. I’d rather go to a place with hot strippers and cocain instead of a heaven full of unvaccinated babies and child molesters.

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      Reminds me of a punchline to a dirty joke.

      “Don’t you dare question how I [satan] torture them.”

    • Flying SquidOP
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      They’re all free on his website. I go there sometimes if I need a laugh.

      • @RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
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        Indeed, I’ve read a lot of them! I just try to not give the website more views lately.

        Also finding them physically out in the wild is extremely rare, it was the only time I’ve seen more than like…one. And that one was attached to my front door XD

          • @RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
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            They were more common back in the…80s, 90s, at geek conventions where he’d proselytize. Otherwise they aren’t super common because I think people just don’t know about them much anymore.

            You can bulk order a random assortment though, if you’re inclined to about people and don’t care the specific message!

            • Queen HawlSera
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              I got a booklet full of them as a prize in a carnival game held by a church

    • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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      I had no idea what these were. Then I realized I had taken some weird bookets from this one weird store. On the back they say CHICK. So I guess I have some chick tracts now. One is called “Love the Jewish People” and the other “This was your life!”

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    I loooooove Chick tracts. I collect them.

    Always on the lookout for Lisa in which the family doctor lets a dad know that he gave his own daughter herpes but it’s okay because he helps the dad find Jesus and stop being a rapist. That one got pulled pretty quickly.

  • pooberbee (any)
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    Ironic to rail against education so hard when you’re literally sitting in a lecture every Sunday.

  • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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    My favorite one is the Christian student against the professor. “Gluons aren’t real because you cannot see them. Actually it is Jesus holding atoms together.”