cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15059816

transcript [text overlaid on several pictures of benches and outside windowsills. the benches have bars, or gaps to prevent someone from sleeping on them.

text reads “Ban anti-homeless arctithecture”]

sauce: https://mastodon.social/@AnarchistArt/112901196516297447

Hostile architecture is among the symptoms of the hostile modern city, where neighbours never say hi, and people die on the streets as people walk passivly by.

  • Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPMEnglish
    3·
    5 months ago

    There’s a divers range of anarchist schools of thought & some of the oldest are forms of individualist anarchism, Max Stirner was contemporary with Marx. You should read his work it not only deals with formal hierarchies but also not being ruled by arbitrary concepts, he’s famous/infamous for using hagelian dielectics to deconstruct hagelian dielectics(I’m some what of a hagelian myself /meme).

    I was using outsourced figuratively, I was trying to express that the vast majority of people are completely divorced from the violence committed on their behalf. An example is when someone calls the cops over something minor & the cops show up & immediately escalate until they kill someone.

    Edit: You can have formal & informal systems in place to minimize/help prevent unnecessary violence under anarchism, they just need to avoid hierarchy.

    • AVincentInSpaceEnglish
      2·
      5 months ago

      You can have formal and informal systems to help prevent unnecessary violencs under anarchism

      Okay cool, so like a set of people whose role it is to go after people who act against the interests of the group, and who are authorized to do that?

      they just need to avoid hierarchy.

      sigh

      Ranger, my guy, we’ve already discussed why a society without hierarchy is not possible. If one group has the unique authority to exert control over bad actors, a hierarchy exists. If everyone has equal authority, whoever threatens the most violence will see everyone else capitulate.

    • AVincentInSpaceEnglish
      2·
      5 months ago

      I don’t have time to go read the works of a philosopher I’ve never previously heard of before continuing a conversation with you. Since you already seem to understand it and like it, you perhaps give me a summary of his ideas? By the way, I think you meant “dialectics” – a dielectric is something you put between two pieces of wire to keep them from shorting out.

      An example is when someone calls the cops over something minor and the cops immediately escalate until they kill someone.

      Sounds like we need police reform and officers trained in de-escalation, not a complete abolition of the police. You’ll hear no argument from me that the current state of policing in the States is our biggest point of national shame and bordering on fascism, but I am truly tired of leftists seeing this fact and jumping to the conclusion that these problems extend to policing as a concept, and proceeding to work to abolish that.

      • Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPMEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        My brain subconsciously corrects as I read so I often don’t see errors.

        I am way too tried to summarize Stirner, I’d think I’d rather try to explain quantum physics to a five year old(exaggeration).

        Yeah real police reforms would be nice. Anarchism I would say isn’t necessarily a simple policy change, yes anarchist have short term goals, but it’s really more of a ongoing process, for me less about a finite end of history but trying to build a space of respect for autonomy no mater how ephemeral.

        A book on that subject for when you have time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone