• GooberEar@lemmy.wtf
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    I’m 99% sure this is fake or that it wasn’t UPS who delivered the package. I can see virtually the whole box in this image and it’s clear that the package is in pretty decent condition and not covered in mystery stains.

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    Most levers you can lift up to pull the latch. Especially passage levers like that one.

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      I think most of these pictures are made up for internet points. This is a pull door. Amazon boxes don’t have incredible structural integrity.

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        It’s not about stopping the door from swinging, it’s about stopping the handle from turning.

        That being said, they could probably have just turned the handle up instead of down.

        Of course I know people who would absolutely just try pushing down a couple times, give up, and call maintenance.

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          With this style of doorhandles up/down movement isn’t transferred through the slab. They both serve the same function of retracting the plunger from the jamb, and don’t require the opposing handle to move AT ALL. Likely due to safety concerns/regulations in high occupancy buildings, I’m comfortable saying all legal apartments have doorhandles that function this way.

          If your apartment doesn’t it’s time to call health and safety because your landlord is breaking the law.

          This is a fake shitpost for internet clout, same as it was 5 years ago when it was posted.

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            My house came with door handle on my outside gate that has both handles directly connected and only turns downward and not upward.

            They definitely exist and are still in use some places.

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              house

              Not quite a high occupancy building imo.

              Codes are different (and actually enforced) when you have one property owner and dozens if not hundreds of tenants who all can sue the owner at a whim (in the US, anyhow).

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                Situations vary and as satisfying as it is to appear to know it all, one doesn’t due to the large variety of how things are throughout the world.

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                  This post gives us a precise situation and the regulations are also very specific.

                  It’s not a hard conclusion to arrive at.

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            That’s also likely true, I was just commenting on if that’s the outside of door, and there’s no keyhole in the lever, it’s incredibly unlikely you have to press down to open it.

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          I would scale a 3 floor building by climbing down balconies before I call maintainence to let me out. Or toss some rope out the window and climb down I guess.

          But I think I would even try taking the entire handle off before calling maintenance. Or even straight up texting a family member and waiting a few hours.

          My wife, on the other hand, is the “I tried to wiggle it lightly a few times so now I am giving up”. Installed a new light last week, and it takes a split second to actually turn on. In the literal 600-800ms it takes to charge up, she flipped the switch 3 or 4 times, and loudly yelled about how the piece of shit we bought doesn’t work. I simply went over and flipped the switch up and left it there to actually power up.

          People like that 100% exist.

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            tbf I would definitely consider an 800ms delay on a light bulb as that light bulb not working and needing to be replaced

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            Taking the handle off is exactly what I’d do, no need to scale the side of a building lmao.

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          Unless this handle is ancient or was originally for an interior door, then this is just for Internet points.

          Pretty much all modern exterior door knobs can turn from one side, even if the knob on the other side is being held in place. On older doors or doors made for interiors you can still find a spindle that connects one knob to the other.

          However, in modern door knobs each knob is connected to the tumbler cylinder via independent shanks. So blocking one or destroying the outside knob doesn’t trap the occupant inside.

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            Unless this handle is ancient.

            Those types of loocks, where the handles are fixed together, are fairly common where I live and are still sold. The world is a big place.

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              For exterior doors…? More than likely those are meant for interior use, and someone is being cheap and installing them for exterior use.

              Either that or they just appear to be affixed together, but will still operate the tumbler even if one is being held in place.

              The reason they don’t really use a single spindle anymore is because it makes them extremely easy to brute force. You can literally just knock the handle off and access and operate the latch assembly.

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                They are for whichever use the customer wants. When used in outside facing doors (or doors you want to actually lock down) it should be paired with a deadbolt, as it is here. You are not wrong in saying that the main reason to use this solution is cost tho.

                The reason they don’t really use a single spindle anymore is because it makes them extremely easy to brute force. You can literally just knock the handle off and access and operate the latch assembly.

                Those locks dont have a locking mechanism (hence the deadbolt) they are just meant to keep the door shut

                There are some that do lock the latch. In those cases removing the handless wont do you any favours since the assembly itself is locked in place. And there are others that dont lock the latch but have a deadbolt as part of the lock.

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      To be fair, the lever handles on my apartment door do not lift up and both handles turn at the same time. For whatever reason :/ so there is reasonable chance this post is real.

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        How old is your building, and does your handle lock? I would look at getting that replaced, regardless of your awnsers.

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          Not that old for the area. I’m not too worried about it, as I mentioned in another comment, easy to just remove the handle if this ever happened. There isn’t really any kind of emergency that could happen here where an extra 30 seconds to remove a door handle would be life or death. If it’s that bad, death would be certain.

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            A fire? Do you walk around with a screwdriver ready to go? It takes 30 seconds to take the handle off in normal conditions, how long will it take you when you are blinding by and choking on smoke?

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      Not all. The safety doors for roof access at our building only work in one direction, up. I’ve been told you can set any of them up to only work in one direction. Just like some can not be unlocked and require to key to open every time. Same doorknob different setup. But I agree that picture is from the inside.

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        The outside of those kind of doors pretty much universally, operate from the outside with a key. There may be some edge cases I’m not thinking about but they wouldn’t apply to a living space.

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          That specific type of lock doesnt use a key, they just have a spring loaded bolt (? sorry, dont know terminology in english) and no real locking mechanism. Thats what the deadbolt on top is for

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          I seriously don’t understand what you mean by that statement. I agreed with you that the picture was from the inside. All I’ve talked about is how they can be set where they only open if the handle is moved one direction. We have several of every configuration in our building.

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            Most handles have a part that is the “outside” which goes on the unsecure side of the door. Due to safety the outside of the handle has a way to operate it if it locks. Keys for keyed locks, or a bypass for privacy handles. I was saying if that was the outside of the door, it’s not a locking handle it’s a passage handle.

            The “inside” of a handle is the side that’s installed on the secure side of the door, and it’s the side you can access the screws that hold the handle on the door. On classroom and storage function handles, they can’t control the doors locking state from the inside, but they can always operate the handle to get out.

            By unsecured I generally mean the side of the door with the least restricted access. Like the outside of your house when thinking about a front door.

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    Even if you can’t lift the handle up , the door can probably be shimmed from the inside - especially if the latch plate is improperly sized.

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            Me: Heh, that's pretty funny  
    Others ITT: *detailed analysis of door handle traps and mechanisms*
    
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    Where did you buy the fuckin handle? Temu? I challenge you to find a handle from a major legitimate brand that works this way. Smells like a plea for Internet points.

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    Deadbolt locking mechanism is in the picture. This looks like it was taken from the interior not exterior. Especially with the door being a push to open.

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      Looks like a reader or keypad above. Many of the electronic locks look like this, you can put the key in or electronically unlock and turn from the outside. My in-laws have a similar one, if you don’t enter the code that part just spins.

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        Yep, I had an extremely similar one on a previous apartment. Looks like you’re right to me.

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        This is how mine works. You have the deadbolt lever on both sides, and can spin the exterior one to lock after you scan your key fob. Mine doesn’t have a master lock on it though; I got locked out once and they had a special electronics team dedicated to the system show up in like 15 mins and open the door through their computers

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      I think that’s the keyway? I bet there’s a number pad above. I have a deadbolt on my garage that looks very similar from the outside

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    Nobody asking the important question: if you were trapped inside, how did you take this photo? Schrödinger’s package.

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      Here’s how it went down:

      1. Ups leaves package as shown in photo.
      2. Open door, handle stuck
      3. Call maintenance
      4. Maintenance removes package, let’s you out
      5. Maintenance explains to you why you couldn’t open the door
      6. Maintenance leaves
      7. Now, outside your apartment, you put the package into the position as maintenance explained it was
      8. You take photo and post it on the internet
      9. You remove the package and enter your apartment
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    Why do you have handles on the outside of the apartment? Weird design choice.

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      Huh? How else would you open the door?

      Edit: although this photo is definitely the interior of a front door.

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        With the key. You turn it in the lock to release the latch, then push it inwards.

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          That makes sense if the door opens inwards, I only just realised that the apartments I’ve lived in are adapted so I probably haven’t had a normal apartment door before and never really paid attention, this has been fascinating.

          (I have palsies so I can’t turn a key anyway without a tool, which I’ve locked inside my house on too many occasions in my youth so I’ve always had my front door locks replaced with lever handles if they initially came with knobs or deadlock dials/latches)

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            In your specific case, I’d suggest installing an electronic door opener that you can trigger with a button on the wall from the inside, and with fingerprint or facial recognition from the outside. Fingerprint activated locks are fairly cheap these days, just not sure if your fine motor skills work sufficiently well to operate them.

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              That sounds like I’d be locked out during a power outage? I’m a bit of a luddite when it comes to basic necessities, I’ve had so many issues in recent years with the enshitification of the internet and digital devices in general, removing, changing, patching out accessibility, or just making something so bloated and cumbersome/ad riddled to use it becomes inaccessible.

              I also make $28K a year (working while disabled really hinders your earning potential) and live in a rented share house with other people. So I’m not even sure where to begin on anything that requires that level of installation. I can swap a doorknob for a lever latch myself (takes me 5 hours, but it’s a $50 DIY job)

              But that’s a really good suggestion for a long term solution.

              One thing that surprises me about America is how many automated doors you have there, and the low buttons for opening doors that you can push from a wheelchair. I’ve never seen one of those buttons on any door in my country, except on some of the newest built accessible bathrooms, and they feel so futuristic compared to everything else around.

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        Exterior doors swing inward so firemen can break them more easily. This is a metal door that swings in; pictured from the outside. I assume this is a door to a dorm/apartment.

        In the second photo you can see the bottom dial for an electronic lock. That portion is the exterior piece. It free spins unless you press the correct combination prior.

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        although this photo is definitely the interior of a front door.

        A front door which opens outside? Never seen that before tbh (Europe).

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        not in north America, never seen a door handle outside a house. people just use the key to open the door from the outside.

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      It looks like a lot of people seem to think the handle is weird, but I’ve never seen a residential door with only a deadbolt. The only deadbolt only door I have seen was just a shed too.

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    Mine works both ways. I assume this is some sort of Third World Country with poor safety regs and/or corruption.

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    I can’t think of a single door to any home, apartment, etc. that I’ve ever seen that opens out instead of in.

    Gonna go ahead and say this is fake.

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      Door opens inwards, look at the frame. The box is not blocking the door from moving but blocking the handle from turning and opening the door. Dont know if it real but its possible.

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      You’re gonna need to think about what is preventing them from opening the door my friend.

      You’re absolutely correct though, the door opens in so it isn’t just acting like a door stop.

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        Me too. Because it was owned by a police officer previously. Door can’t be kicked in. Bad for fire safety though.

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      It’s fake, but that’s not why. The package is blocking the door handle from turning, so it doesn’t matter which way the door opens, trying to will jam the handle up on the package.

      It’s fake because this is the inside of the door, not the outside. Notice the lock for the deadbolt.

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      I was about to reply that the reason they were trapped was because the door handle was blocked by the package, not because it was holding the door shut… but you’re right, this photo was taken inside the dwelling.

      (As also evidenced by the deadbolt mechanism another poster noted)