Really you don’t need to read more than one chart:

If you vote for anyone other than Harris, you’re voting for Trump:

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    A similar article will be posted every time Monk posts one supporting a 3rd party spoiler from now on.

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      so you’re gonna have to find like 20 articles a day… also don’t forget to copy paste a 6 paragraph defense of “I swear I’m not Russian I just post the articles” in the comments of every post

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      Genuine question: why has he not been banned? To me he seems to repeatedly violate the rule about arguing in good faith, and - to be honest - his passive aggressive civility feels at times more hostile than straight up attacks.

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        We’ve talked about it amongst ourselves with the mods and admins and have concluded that having a shitty opinion is not infringing.

        They do post legitimate sources with legitimate opinions. They’re BAD opinions, but you aren’t going to get banned for having a bad opinion.

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          I don’t much have an issue with the material they chose to post - the nature of a link aggregator will sort them to the bottom regardless due how how voting works and as you say, they’re legitimate sources.

          My issue is more regarding their conduct in the comment sections.

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          It’s not the opinion, it’s the JAQ energy and baiting.

          If they just posted articles, that’s one thing.

          They legitimately try to bait people into being heated about things. Afterwhich, they cry victim

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            Yeah but is it against the rules to be an asshole or a crybaby ? I tend to say stupid shit when drinking and have gotten a ban and a few comments and posts deleted, but it would be a shame for something minor to get me a bigger ban or what not.

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              I’m not going to directly link the user because that’s bad behavior but they have a very clear routine they follow on every post. Having an opinion is fine, acting like you are following a script is eventually really lame. Especially when the end of the script usually is calling people out for victimizing them

              This user often posts about Jill Stein, and is exclusively critical of democrats.

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      Spoiler implies we would vote for a Democrat if there were no 3rd party options. We would not. There’s a larger chance you would vote for a republican than us voting Democrat

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        For you, personally, that may be true. Statistically speaking, in general, it’s very much the opposite:

        https://www.thirdway.org/memo/the-data-how-third-parties-could-be-spoilers-that-elect-trump

        “Similarly, Third Way’s polling has found that Biden’s voters are 13 percentage points more likely to consider voting for a third party than Trump’s voters. While Biden has a higher ceiling, with his possible vote totals well north of 50%, Trump has a stronger floor: his voters are more loyal, so third parties are less likely to draw them away.”

        If you lean left, and you fail to vote for the Democratic candidate, you only help the Republican candidate.

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          I don’t think it’s all that weird to recognize that neither party is what you want or will advance your political goals.

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            It’s pretty weird to insist on a course of action that won’t result in something you want. If you think both parties are the same, you’re wildly misinformed.

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                If they aren’t the same in their view, they they would be sensible to care about which wins. They have a stake in a less harmful result.

                But literally throwing away their vote on a third party, they are inflicting harm on themselves, the electorate, and the world.

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                  Who are you talking about?

                  Third party votes get counted and have an effect. The whole idea of throwing one’s vote away is so nonsensical that it was lampooned in a simpsons bit.

                  If third party voters are inflicting harm on all the groups you mentioned, does that mean they’re responsible for the harm caused by one or the other party? Would you extend that to people who actively voted for those two parties? To the people enacting those parties policies? Deciding them?

                  Just how responsible for Bidens genocide in Gaza would you say a person who voted third party or trump in 2020 can be held?

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                    Did you even READ the original linked article?

                    Seems like not.

                    Voting third party is the same as voting for Trump. THAT’S the effect that third party votes have. You’re deluding yourself if you think they have any other effect in this upcoming election.