• pyre@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    the reason to pick Chinese may be racist (possibly due to the writing system looking complicated) but the thought experiment itself doesn’t have racist connotations imo, and i don’t think it’s stupid either. doesn’t have to involve Chinese or a specific language at all.

    it’s a logical question to ask: if i can mimic speaking in a language to a point that it convinces native speakers, but don’t understand what I’m saying myself, am I considered a genuine speaker of that language? does what i say matter or have any value?

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      2 months ago

      well it appears like you’re posting english, but actually you’re posting nonsense

      so the answer to your question is no

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      Scientists: weird, we didn’t slip this piece of paper saying “mansplain the chinese room thought experiment” through the door, and yet that’s all the room seems to want to do. I guess we just have to conclude the room is an idiot?

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        2 months ago

        what an unnecessarily aggressive comment. mansplain? am i even responding to a woman? also i wasn’t trying to explain it; i was saying the central question doesn’t have to involve a specific language at all and it still a worthy question, especially with all this AI bullshit being pushed all over.

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          2 months ago

          Enter these into your data banks, you automaton:

          • The chinese room was brought up as a tangent to a tangent, why are you doubling down on mansplaining it?
          • nobody was even talking about whether or not it is a good or bad concept, we were just talking about the problematic dude that made it popular
          • you are in a space that is critical of AI. The chinese room was brought up by name. You think we don’t know what it is and that you need to explain it?
          • literally all you had to do to seem even remotely reasonable was to not try mansplain AGAIN and yet you did. I wrote what I said as a joke and you went ahead and turned it into prophecy. You buffoon!!!