both in absolute terms and especially compared to continuing airstrikes, some with ai-cooked target list and including actual warcrime tactics, pagers were basically spotless in terms of targeting. the more likely illegal part was in booby-trapping pagers in the first place. westpoint lawyer take on the situation https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/
Yeah, like, fuck Israel, I’m no ally of Israel, but the pager thing is dubious-but-overblown. I could see it being a war crime, but I could also understand if it was determined a legitimate ruse-of-war by a legitimately unbiased international court.
The fact that they immediately escalated to shelling residential areas afterwards? A bit more damning.
Yup. I’d say it was legit, given that airstrikes on military targets that might have visiting civilians are considered legit. Like, at the very least that seems like a court case worth fighting, although IANAL.
Literally everything else I can think of has been messed up.
pagers thing is probably illegal pending extra details but it’s not the worst thing that happenes there. not like this case will see hague ever so it’s probably a bit moot on that ground
it’s middle east, there are no innocent orgs, except civilians, and no one has actual incentive to limit civilian casualties. i’d just wish that both likud and hamas lose because neither is compatible with remotely sane stable politics in region
If a man shoots at his wife and misses, they should drop a 1000 pound bomb on his house with him and his wife and kids inside, his neighbors’ houses blown up as well, his office building hit with napalm, his cousins detained for questioning, and his accountant shot. Agreed?
Israel has the iron dome, it’s not for lack of trying.
Iron Dome has intercepted some 5000 rockets in the past decade. With each of those 5000 rockets assumed to be a civilian casualty (which, considering the casualty rates of Hamas rocket attacks per-rocket, you will agree is VERY generous, I’m sure), would you like to give us a ballpark estimate for the civilian deaths caused by Israel and Hamas?
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both in absolute terms and especially compared to continuing airstrikes, some with ai-cooked target list and including actual warcrime tactics, pagers were basically spotless in terms of targeting. the more likely illegal part was in booby-trapping pagers in the first place. westpoint lawyer take on the situation https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/
Yeah, like, fuck Israel, I’m no ally of Israel, but the pager thing is dubious-but-overblown. I could see it being a war crime, but I could also understand if it was determined a legitimate ruse-of-war by a legitimately unbiased international court.
The fact that they immediately escalated to shelling residential areas afterwards? A bit more damning.
Yup. I’d say it was legit, given that airstrikes on military targets that might have visiting civilians are considered legit. Like, at the very least that seems like a court case worth fighting, although IANAL.
Literally everything else I can think of has been messed up.
pagers thing is probably illegal pending extra details but it’s not the worst thing that happenes there. not like this case will see hague ever so it’s probably a bit moot on that ground
it’s middle east, there are no innocent orgs, except civilians, and no one has actual incentive to limit civilian casualties. i’d just wish that both likud and hamas lose because neither is compatible with remotely sane stable politics in region
bunch a civilians and children were killed by the pager attacks
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i’ll make it shorter for you if you don’t have attention span for a paragraph of text:
pagers are probably a war crime, but it’s relatively minor compared to airstrikes that happened since (and before)
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So booby trapping military equipment is bad because civilians might get caught in it, but firing rockets at civilians is a-ok?
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What Israelis are celebrating airstrikes on Israel?
Wtf?
You must live in Israel, where the media censors all the other, outgoing airstrikes. Which are much greater in quantity and effect.
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That’s called misinformation
Would you like to give us a ballpark estimate of the number of civilians bombed by Israel and Hamas recently?
Israel has the iron dome, it’s not for lack of trying.
A man shoots at his wife and misses. Should that man go to jail?
If a man shoots at his wife and misses, they should drop a 1000 pound bomb on his house with him and his wife and kids inside, his neighbors’ houses blown up as well, his office building hit with napalm, his cousins detained for questioning, and his accountant shot. Agreed?
Iron Dome has intercepted some 5000 rockets in the past decade. With each of those 5000 rockets assumed to be a civilian casualty (which, considering the casualty rates of Hamas rocket attacks per-rocket, you will agree is VERY generous, I’m sure), would you like to give us a ballpark estimate for the civilian deaths caused by Israel and Hamas?