Her’s how you might also be able to help:
Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.
The FAQs are a riot in the Campaign PAC site.
Chaotic good
Can I just do all those things and take $100? I’m already planning on voting but it’d sure help.
Read their FAQ (it’s quite informative and pretty funny too!). Afaik you can if you actually didn’t vote the last time, lean blue, and are eligible to vote in a swing state
I think it is confusing for a company to do nice things.
So this is probably a plan to call out Elon musk’s stupid “pay to sign a petition” plan. Basically just buying votes. The more attention these schemes get, the more likely they will be made officially illegal.
Sort of a Satanic Temple maneuver. I like it.
From Apologize.lol
Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!
Highly recommend giving the whole thing a read. It’s pretty funny (and messed up)
Funny but it has to be illegal right?
super pac gaming baby. Who needs legality when the supreme court just fucking explicitly allows it.
They have a pretty fun FAQ on the campaign site explaining the legality of it.
Ok that was both funny and depressing in equal measures.
pretty fucked up right
They’re paying you to swallow your pride, make a tweet, and a plan to vote. They’re not paying you to vote.
Its also coming after elon started tweeting that he would pay people $47 for registering swing state voters in support of trump.
And apparently if you register in his site with CAH as the referer, they’ll be obligated to pay CAH.
paying for apology, making a plan of voting, and a tweet?
it is not and this is where we are at.
I’m sorry but I won’t tweet even for $100.
Would you tweet 100 times for $10000?
…would they still pay me if I posted on Mastodon instead?
(Well, obviously they wouldn’t pay me – I did my duty as a citizen and voted in 2020 – but…)
Nothing in there even mentioned twitter. It said: a public apologyThat’s it
Edit: turns out my reading comprehension needs work
“…and tweet ‘Donald Trump is a human toilet’.”
Touché
I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.
Obviously it’s fucked that Musk started this, and while it’s pretty rad to see CAH surpass his dumb ass, this isn’t going to be the end of it. This is just the genie getting loose.
I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.
Literally one of the reasons we switched to a secret ballot (it’s less effective to buy votes if you can’t know who they voted for) in the first place. The first places to switch started in the 1890s, and the last state to switch over did so in 1950.
There’s a fun bit on the official website where they tell you how to get Musk to pay them $47.
cards should be working as dem strategists
https://petition.theamericapac.org/
For those curious.
Consorship right?( Smartass lib)
What’s the legal reasoning behind it?
I think it’s because Musk is offering money to people who get other people to sign up and pledge to vote Trump.
It doesn’t say anything about voting voting Trump, just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with that, but there’s not the slightest chance in hell I’m voting for Trump.
Cards Against Humanity however is very carefully threading the needle around committing election fraud. They’re paying you to make a plan to vote, but not based on whether or not you actually follow that plan and vote. The latter is very explicitly turnout buying, what CAH is doing is possibly just far enough away to be legal. I’d be shocked if no one uses them over it though as close as it is.
CAH is also clearly saying “what we are doing is fucked up and shouldn’t be legal.” They are bringing attention to the fact that this shouldn’t be legal to encourage laws to be updated.
Yeah, but CAH is cutting it much closer than Musk. Bribing people to sign a petition that says you support basic constitutional rights you already have is a lot farther away from buying votes or buying turnout than what CAH is doing, which is walking as close to the line as they think they can get away with to show just how far out the line is.
just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with
Which funny because they’re simultaneously phasing out parts off the first amendment.
I’m not a lawyer so I have no idea. I was just providing the link from the image.
This isn’t buying votes. They’re paying you to apologize, make a tweet, and make a plan to vote.
Can they target the electoral college since they’re the ones that overturned the popular vote in the first place???
I know this is a response to musk’s bullshit, but this makes it sound like trump won the popular vote in 2016. He did not.
Not a great game, legendary company!
The website
Lmao
Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.
The whole FAQ is pretty amazing. My favorites:
How do you know who didn’t vote?
We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.
The data you have on me is wrong! I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever. I demand you fix this.
Consider the teachings of Buddhism: “The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don’t wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy.”
Now, calm your mind and meditate on the knowledge that Cards Against Humanity does not have time for this shit
I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever.
Realistically they can’t know who you voted for in the past. That you voted is public record, what ballots were voted is public record, but not a connection between voter and ballot. So how you lean is basically a guess based on information they could have (given what it says about me I’m guessing that lack of party affiliation and being in an extremely red state (I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote) are the main factors that drove the assumptions about my leanings that it provided.
I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote
Same. I wonder if there has been any analysis on the amount of people that have gone to solid blue all the way down the ballot solely due to Trump.
Hilarious. Elon sucks.
ahahaha!!
Bad news possibly: are the MAGA schemers gonna send people to the Cards Against Humanity site and then ask for a $50 donation to even things out?
That was actually addressed it seems! (In the FAQs at the bottom of the site)
Beautiful.
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Now that’s how you build a proper mobile website!
Also
I used to love your card games before you got all political.
Your mom used to love you before you got so fucking stupid.
LMFAO, I should steal that and use it against those transphobic turds on Xitter complaining about Godot
CAH never really drew me in. I got it was funny madlibs, but I just didn’t care. Now that they got all political, I may get some for my shelf, they deserve it.
All I did was put in my current zip code (different than 2020’s), phone, first, and last name, and it pulled up my full name and age and current city and political leaning (very blue).
Wild that they can just buy this data.
Are there any more funny jokes after that button? I only get
Hi, non-American person.
Unfortunately, only US citizens (and permanent residents) are eligible to participate in this whole thing. Sorry Canucks and weird British perverts.
(Which is still funny)
And how much did they offer you?
Since I voted in the last election, nothing.
I didn’t know lol was a valid ICANN Top Level Domain
lol
You sound like an ICANT, with that thinking!
They can’t find my info after I put in my last 3 addresses 😭
Then double check that you are registered to vote!!!
If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning and I could get paid for it.
Must be great to live in one of the seven states that’s allowed to decide our election thanks to the electoral college.
If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning
You presumably live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party? Otherwise you very definitely don’t wish you were in a swing state.
To put it simply, swing states are just the biggest states that are purple enough that you can’t safely predict what will happen. States like Texas or California going purple would immediately make them the most important swing state by far.
The GOP is terrified Texas might become a swing state. If through some strange alchemy California were to become a swing state it would be an existential threat to the Democrats.
I fucking WISH we would go at least deep purple. Ive been seeing “Cats for Kamala” and “Harris Walz 2024” all over the place, and while it makes me happy, I also have to remember that I live in a very blue city in Texas. Im worried about all the rural people who are literally afraid of society.
So you do live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party, and thus the state going purple can only benefit your party. Imagine you with your current politics moved to California, would you want it to become a purple state?
Yes, so you vote this year, get others to vote, and then spend the next 4 years working to overturn the electoral college and get ranked choice voting implemented. If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.
Stay focused.
If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.
Here’s a question: are you doing all of that yourself?
It just sounds to me like you’re attempting to say that people shouldn’t care or shouldn’t be frustrated if they’re not willing to spend every waking minute of their lives working towards change. And yes, while change does take time and effort, asking average citizens to go above and beyond doing their civic duty of voting is a bit much.
This genuinely sounds like usual Republican rhetoric of “if you cared so much it wouldn’t be this way.”
Yeah, swing states are where it’s at. From Nate Silver’s forecast, the states most likely to tip the election (as of today, Oct 9).
I live in the Philly suburbs and it’s disturbing how many Trump signs I see in my area. I really really fucking hope he doesn’t win this state.
it’s up to you guys stop stop your neighbors from voting (as well as cast your own ballots). i would use any tool in the bag. this could be the end of the world if he wins. i don’t feel like that’s an exaggeration.
I’ve already mailed in my ballot. Not sure what you’re suggesting in terms of stopping my neighbors from voting but that sounds highly illegal.
Show me one law that explicitly states it’s illegal to build a 10ft wide moat around my neighbor’s house
Presumably that qualifies as vandalism unless you own 10 feet of property in a ring around his house, which is an uncommon situation. Depending on the wording it might also qualify as attempted kidnapping or unlawful imprisonment or something along those lines.
I just looked up the vandalism laws in my state and I didn’t see the sentence “building a most around your neighbor’s house is illegal” anywhere, so I think I’m in the clear
State and local elections still matter outside of the electoral college!
I’m aware. I already participate in those.
Doesn’t change the fact that my vote regarding the highest office in the country is a pointless effort.
Funny isn’t it. 95% of Americans are effectively disenfranchised but nobody gives a fuck.
I mean, you can vote and still get paid; I don’t live in a swing state but I got a whopping $0.17 for my efforts! It’s moreso about getting a voting plan together.
This is some bullshit, I can’t even lend a hand
as a British pervert, I’m guessing you must be the Canadian?
So for the first time we don’t get lumped in with the yanks, we get lumped in with the Brits instead???
We just can’t win.
Canada is the comma of nations. Technically it’s supposed to be there, but no one notices if it’s missing.
Canada’s influence is so weak they couldn’t even convince the world their bacon is actually bacon.
Canada’s claim to fame is being slightly more interesting than North Dakota.
Canada’s national anthem sounds like an apology letter set to music.
Canada’s idea of influence is having 90% of their population living within 100 miles of the US border and constantly asking “hey what are you guys up to, eh?”
Edit: (Love you, Canada!)
Canada only exists today because it is America’s hat and the founding fathers drew a line way farther south than the British originally thought they would. You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war, it’s wild to think about.
I’ve enjoyed every time I’ve ever been to Canada except for one time when a young truck driver and his friend at a bar took offense to me calling him an asshole for being rude to the bartender, tried to beat me up in the bar, got kicked out, and then over an hour later when me and gf called a cab and left, he and his friend popped up from behind a snowbank across the street and sprinted at us.
We got into the cab before they got there, the driver was confused, we told him to lock the doors and go, and then the dudes got there and started beating on the windows screaming for us to get out. Then the driver got it and peeled off.
Alcohol: it’s not for everyone. But I almost have to admire the dedication to wait outside behind a snowbank for over an hour in the middle of winter just to try to beat someone up for saying “don’t be such an asshole.” Turns out not all Canadians are nice!
You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war,
This piqued my curiosity. It took some digging but I found what you’re referring to - any other curious readers can search their favourite engine for the following:
“Oswalt red line map treaty of Paris”
There aren’t many sources and none are particularly high quality, but it’s certainly interesting.
British pervert
Don’t worry if anyone sees you…
All the lights are on, but the blinds are down.
Nope. I am neither, and I get the same text. It’s probably US Only.
American politics forces itself on me and I can’t even vote in their elections, that’s fucking bullshit. No spamming without representation!
I’m not Canadian, nor British. I demand an apology! And a proper insult to my nationality! 😄
Based on your .nl, I will assume you are tall, ride a bike everywhere, and love cheese. But I’m sure some yank will find something offensive to call you. Just be patient.
Same here! As we all would be victims if Trump get reelected, I’d like to support you and buy those cards!
Isn’t that like buying votes?
Nope. They aren’t telling you you must vote for Harris. There is no call to action to vote.
Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.
Merely paying you to vote at all is illegal. But they’re not doing that - they’re paying you to make a plan to vote, to post a tweet and to make a public apology. Nothing says you have to go through with the plan to vote, merely that you make one - and that distinction is the legal line they are walking.
Absolutely, no argument there!
They are specifically paying for a plan to vote.
But they aren’t requiring people to follow through on the plan.
No, certainly not.
Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.
“America’s bluest non voters” and “tweet Donald trump is…”. Looks like they are only paying if you agree with their politics. That is buying votes. Offering it to all non voters is one thing but the other requirements make it shady. Just as bad as Elon Musk “sign a petition”. neither should be permitted.
That is buying votes.
No, it’s not. Specifically because they aren’t actually requiring you to vote - they are paying you to make a public apology, post a tweet, and come up with a plan to vote but not based on whether or not you actually go through with that plan or vote at all. That distinction is the specific legal line they are walking.
blue also means sad…LOOPHOLE! (You know…the whole point…)
They know
Everyone is posting about getting paid for their apology. I did my part by getting a pack, and I want to post, too. What should I post?
You should post:
How is this not illegal??? Cards Against Humanity is PAYING people who didn’t vote in 2020 to apologize, make a voting plan, and post #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet—up to $100 for blue-leaning people in swing states. I helped by getting a 2024 Election Pack: www.Apologize.lol
That’s the point. Draw attention to the illegal shit Musk is doing so that maybe the one remaining judge in the US who wants to uphold the Constitution might do something about it.
You’ve got a point, if Elon did this for the right people would be screaming corruption, paying people only if they agree to vote the way you want them to is shady as fuck regardless of which side is doing it
I’m probably just joining you in getting dogpiled here but oh well
He posted it on X under his account…it might as well said “maga only”.
I can’t actually find the tweet you’re talking about but I’m assuming he’s deleted it or something
From what people are saying it sounds like he was just paying non voters to vote at all, not restricting it to only people who shared his political beliefs
I’d applaud it if that was what CAH were doing but they’re specifically whitelisting people they agree with to be able to get the money, IE paying people to agree with them
They are paying “people that didn’t vote in 2020”. It is ultimately a foil of Musks rightwing, but not reaaalllyy wiiink. Just theirs it more aimed towards blue voters, but only because the right struggles to insult their godking…but ultimately it is just words and not telling them to VOTE BLUE. Just like Musk is trying to get his predominantly red crowed to register and get paid, but not TELLING them to vote red
It is completely asinine and a symptom of our trash system.
Cah literally say in their FAQ that this is only offered to “the bluest voters” and imply (whether it’s true or not I don’t know) that they have information about who’s voted what and when to verify that
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not, because Elon actually is doing that.
In both these cases, the payment technically isn’t directly for voting for a specific candidate. The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with. Either way, still smells bad.
The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with.
Supporting free speech and gun rights (literally all the petition says) is something only a Trump voter would agree with?
You think Musk supports free speech in any way, form or shape?
Didn’t say that.
But the petition is being sold here as “pledging to vote for Trump”. which it plainly isn’t. It’s also been sold in this Lemmy thread as paying voters to sign a petition that only Trump voters would ever agree to sign.
The petition that allegedly only Trump voters would ever agree to sign, only states that you support free speech and gun rights. Whether or not I think Musk actually genuinely supports those things (I don’t) is irrelevant, that’s what the actual petition says.
I’m not being sarcastic, and I don’t follow American politics that closely so I didn’t know about this. I also don’t see why people think the right response to that is to just do the same thing though
They’re doing it specifically to point out how bullshit it is. Read the FAQ: https://apologize.lol
That’s fair enough if it’s to raise awareness about the fact this is legal, doesn’t seem like that’s the main focus though
Because being this blunt about it will likely get it made illegal.
But… he is doing it?
I’m not following, I don’t live in the US. If he’s doing it too that also sucks but I don’t think stooping to that level is the way to solve that problem
Then read through the website linked and understand what is going on here if you’re not following.
Having read up on the article about musk doing this, he’s not restricting it to people who are going to vote for a specific party which is the thing I take issue with.
Nothing wrong with paying people to vote in general, paying people only if they are going to vote the way you want them to sucks
It’s been pointed out that he is in fact doing it, several times actually. I’m actually pretty sure this is directly a result of the Muskrat doing it.
No more so that Elon
