Imagine having peace of mind while your team promotes genocide.
Peak liberal privilege.
Imagine being privileged enough to know that another Trump term won’t affect you.
Imagine not giving a shit about all the women and queer people that will lose their basic human rights, because you know you are safely insulated behind your wealth, sexuality, gender identity, and/or sex.
Imagine pretending that Trump, who has urged Netanyahu to “Finish the job quickly”, is the less genocidal option in two weeks.
Peak tankie nonsense.
Trump isn’t going away, even if he doesn’t win. That’s what people thought in 2020. Now that Biden’s president, Trump will just disappear, right? Wrong.
And yes, I know he said that he won’t run again in 2028, but I don’t believe it. His cult would beg him to run again, and he’d do it.
I think he’ll be either dead or not lucid enough to run personally
lol no: Trump will keep running until he dies and Ds will keep using him as a bogeyman
Fine, but he’s getting close to the end. We should keep him out of the White House until then.
Peak liberalism.
Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away. That all the structural issues with America go away.
Big “We want to go back to brunch” energy.
Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away.
What? You’re telling me that what happened in 1933 with the business plot to overthrow the government and no one of importantance being held accountable allowed fascism to continue to grow. That is… That actually tracks with America. We have a terrible short term memory.
Four options:
- He’s finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
- Natural death/diagnosis of dementia
- He’s voted out
- He’s elected and someone with better aim tries their luck
I don’t expect him to live a full term even if he’s not assassinated, and Vance is a fascist without dementia.
Trump is one problem in a world full of problems, but goddamn will it feel good to be rid of him all the same.
I almost can’t remember what the internet was like without seeing his name or face every day. I miss it.
Voting him out will not remove him from your feed. You will hear about how the election was stolen again. About how his disciples tried to destroy the capitol or the white house or whatever, again. You will hear about how he was out on trial again. You will hear about whatever new crap he comes up with.
I’d rather watch him flail about after losing again than watch him execute his
mass deportationgenocide plans.
The problem isn’t Trump (in this case), the problem is social media. Get off social media. Find better alternatives. Even at the best of times, when are people ever having a civil conversation about art, movies, music, etc?
I don’t use apps unless they allow creation of block lists. My news RSS app has loads of keywords blocked (including Trump, Harris, etc). My Lemmee block list is huge. Items like this post get through when they don’t trigger my keywords, but this makes me think I really should add on “USA”.
We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.
One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.
Maybe if you guys didnt put yeltsin in place you wouldnt have russian interference now. Just saying
lmao
“Dear
USAconservatives…”Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.
That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won’t be the last.
Others don’t seem to have the hold over those clowns as he does. Meatball Ron fell flat. Vance wouldn’t maintain this level of support for 5 minutes. Hawley can’t. Horse face green is just a clown and not a serious candidate.
I think his losing again would snap some people out of it.
I think the party would bail on him. Especially if he causes losses down the ballot. They won’t back him for another election.
sadly, voting him out does not erase him.
I was thinking, “Wait, we can vote him out of existence?”
if we cannot incarcerate, exile him. let him go crying back to putin and see how accepted hell be
It’s amusing that Trump can’t see that Putin will drop him as soon as his usefulness ends, just like Trump does to people who support him (Giuliani, for example).
i hope thats what happens to him when he gets there.
We would be happy to see him running from prison.
he would still be eligible to assume the office from there so no thanks
I find myself disliking him less this time around than I did in 2016, and I don’t exactly know why. Sure, there’s a ton I disagree with him on, but that applies to both candidates. I guess I have some sympathy for the people in the center who were pushed away by the left and ended up on the right.
No need to worry though - I’m not a US citizen, so I’m not voting for him.
I don’t understand this sentiment at all. I know it’s a popular one - but how in the hell does instigating a violent coup attempt improve people’s views of the man?
The coup was bad, yes, but don’t forget the hundreds of thousands dead from COVID. Trump has even less plausible deniability for that.
You seem to be implying that is the reason I find myself disliking him less now than in 2016 which couldn’t be further from the truth. That’s among the most pressing arguments against him.
That’s equally unfair as me saying ‘I don’t see how Harris supporting gender-affirming surgeries for undocumented immigrants in custody’ makes people want to vote for her.
Shouldn’t that be a disqualifying factor?
Sure but that doesn’t really change anything. I don’t think he was fit for the job to begin with.
Anyone who thinks Trump is the sole problem and that him being out of the news will solve all the problems is clueless.
That was not the claim. Just that Trump news are nasty and Trump is one of the few Republicans who has enough charisma to end up in the news. If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background. It means the Republicans need a new leader and whoever that is, is probably going to fail.
If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background.
By no means. That’s what people thought in 2020, and look what happened.
I know what you’re saying. That the environment that gave us Trump would still exist. Sure. All the issues, both illegitimate (white resentment, racism, propaganda) and legitimate (wealth disparity, disillusioning political figures, late stage capitalistic despair), would still remain.
But that also gives too little importance to Trump’s unique place in this. He is a uniquely cynical, sociopathic trigger that is exploiting this populist anger, while being so incompetent that he fails to solve any of those issues underlying it.
He thus is simultaneously perpetuating those issues, while feeding off of them - both creating and burning the fuel of populist anger. DeSantis, Vance, Hawley, all the other toe-headed power-simps who would step in to take his place would fail to hold that paradoxical balance for long - they think they can learn it, but Trump is built for it. That is Trump’s unique skill, his singularly destructive, delusional, sociopathic egomania.
Like a wildfire - yes, when there are dry hot conditions, many things could start one. But it’s also true that you may have been almost through the dry, hot season when a wildfire hits. And if you could have prevented that first fateful spark a week - maybe a day - longer, you could have avoided catastrophe and tragedy.
I think that’s where we were in 2016, and we failed to contain it. It spread so far, that we were barely able to contain it in 2020. But if we can avoid it in 2024, if we can prevent Trump from sparking another wildfire, maybe the season could change.
But that also gives too little importance to Trump’s unique place in this. He is a uniquely cynical, sociopathic trigger that is exploiting this populist anger, while being so incompetent that he fails to solve any of those issues underlying it.
Nah he’s just a dude. Maybe you should quit swallowing his mystique as well, it empowers the guy.
You are detached from reality if you are unable to see what the OP describes.
It’s not even hard to see at this point, the image has long been set in stark, giant, letters, imprinted on history.
But given his popularity, you are not alone in being detached from reality.
Yeah, of course he’s just a dude. He’s one of the least worthy dudes out there, for all the attention he’s getting. He didn’t justifiably earn any of that.
But nonetheless, he is a key that happens to be shaped perfectly to unlock, exploit and exacerbate populist anger. It could have been anyone else if the conditions were different, but it is uniquely him in this history. That’s all I’m saying, but it a very important detail.
Also, if they think he’ll just fuck off if he loses, they’ve not been paying any fucking attention…
I can’t wait to see what he does when he loses.
i’m doing my part!
