• a1studmuffin@lemmy.ml
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    What I don’t understand about this whole situation: why does it matter where commits originate from if you’re dealing with an open source project? Does the Linux kernel not peer review code? Can’t security researchers from around the world comb over the source code for vulnerabilities/malware? Or is this all just political theatrics?

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      Not about code security (even thought that is certainly important by itself). Sanctions are about political and economical isolation, is not that you don’t trust their companies, is that you want to unplug them as a punishment.

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      They’re not allowed to be collaborating with people who work for certain Russian companies. It’s not a question of security, it’s a question of US law requiring US entities to punish through non-cooperation certain companies that are assisting in the war effort or whatever.

      It might or might not be fair, but it isn’t up to the kernel developers, it’s a legal requirement for them.

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        It might or might not be fair, but it isn’t up to the kernel developers, it’s a legal requirement for them.

        Part of me believes we have a moral obligation to disobey immoral laws. Doubly so when the US is a oligarchy that does not reflect the will or morality of the working class.

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          Somewhere i read that non compliance could land you in jail. If I was a maintainer, i am not sure if I would like to go to jail for OSS.

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    Personally I’m glad the sanctions have some bite. You can’t expect to just keep living your life as you wish when your country is obliterating its neighbors and disrupting stability worldwide.

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      Hey guys we’re going to blow up the maternity hospital and shell the nuclear plant: I sleep

      You can’t work on your software project anymore: REAL SHIT

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        You know there are massive differences between the war that Russia started and the war that Hamas started.

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          Yes, the difference being that one is a war and the other is just plain old genocide.

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            Yup. I recall how the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs published new guidelines for digging mass graves in late 2021. One of many pieces of evidence pointing towards genocidal intent. Bucha at the latest should have made Putin’s goals in Ukraine more than clear to anyone.

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      And how exactly is banning these contributors supposed to stop the invasion? These people have no control or culpability.

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        When Russian citizens understand there are direct consequences to them, Russian citizens stop supporting Putin’s actions.

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          Putin couldn’t care less about the support from some random programmers. Be realistic, what do you expect them to do? Take up arms? Protest and get imprisoned? Vote in the sham elections?

          Targeting random civilians in hopes of political change is the strategy of terrorists.

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            Dictators need the support of their citizens as well. None of them have truly unlimited power.

            Every single one of them has to keep people both afraid and happy enough to maintain control. This includes various domestic interest groups (from peasants to members of the military) as well as influential individuals (a small number of key cadres, media figures, intellectuals and generals), in addition to foreign powers. It’s a constant and highly dangerous balancing act, because if there is one thing that is exceptionally rare among autocratic regimes, it’s a peaceful transition of power. No “president for life” wants to share the fate of Muammar Gaddafi.

            You people have been shouting that he’s a dictator

            Yes, because he is one. Nobody in their right mind would deny this.

            since your owners told you to hate Russians.

            This is ridiculous. So people in the free West are slaves now? And no, we don’t hate Russians, just Putin, his cronies, his soldiers who murder and rape their way through Ukraine - and his lap dogs who are busy regurgitating primitive “russophobia” propaganda talking points, either for free or in the vain hope that they don’t get sent in the meat grinder.

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        It’s supposed to put the LF in line with sanctions rather than at risk. They have no control over the invasion (aside from pushing a malicious patch that shuts down all Linux systems or something)

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          So then you agree that there is no reason to be “glad” about this?

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            Is this supposed to be a leading question? I’m not making the decisions, but there’s no reason to be happy about losing contributors in any case.

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              Some people think if you’re not foaming at the mouth over this then you’re in total support. The threads have been bizarre