• Mango@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Tell me about these orc things. Is it an idealism type of world where people agreeing on belief manifests reality mechanics?

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        21 days ago

        Quick correction. The warp was turned from a calm reflection of reality into hell not by the modern galaxy but the war in heaven which took place at some starting point up to around 68 million years ago. The Aeldari certaintly did not help the warp by birthing Slaanesh but the vast damage done to the warp was done by a conflict so vast it makes the modern fighting look like a water gun fight.

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        21 days ago

        Yooo, I love everything about that! Where do I sign away my free time?

        Edit: also what’s waagh?

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          21 days ago

          Just to warn you there is a lot of lore and it’s changed and been retconned over the last 40 years. That leads to some odd stuff like Leman Russ having a tank named after him.

          It’s also had some major tone shifts from silly (Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Cluseau ) to so Grim Dark it becomes Grim Derp. It’s in a sort of midpoint now.

          So look into what you find interesting and if you don’t like it switch sources or topic. Expect things to be contradictory depending on when it was written.

          Here is a good but silly video background to the origin of the orks. It’s still mostly accurate. In 30k the Emperor got hurt and was put on a life support chair. He’s been there for 10k years unable to communicate.

          Premise of this series is they install a text to speech device and now big E can communicate. So they update him on the state of the Imperium and he fills in all the missing history. It’s a fan video and noncannon but lore accurate for when it was made.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyeoBm5QFnA

          If you want a more serious tone for your lore dump try luetin09 or oculus imperialis. They are to dry for me but pretty good content.

          Also WAAGH is the ork war cry and WAAGH energy is the reality bending field that makes the orks group think real. So red things go faster because red is the fastest color.

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          21 days ago

          I got started by reading all the books by Dan Abnett. Eisenhorn is amazing (though there are no Orks, sadly).

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      22 days ago

      Not super familiar with it, but they have some sort of psychic field that turns their beliefs into reality. Pretty much all their technology only works because they believe it does

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        <rant> It’s not actually that powerful, but it does work like this to some extent (and of course the “official” lore is pretty vague about it and sometimes contradicts itself).

        The way I see it, they can’t just pick up a stick and turn it into a rifle by believing that it is one, but they have some inherent collective knowledge of mechanics that allows them to make the technology even though their intellect should definitely be a huge hurdle, and if they collectively believe hard enough that, for example, the (hand made) barrel of their gun that should be way off tolerance is actually a proper gun barrel, it will work as intended and only blow up after emptying 20 mags instead of instantly</rant>

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          22 days ago

          So basically they have … something like a collective dunning kruger effect which manifests as an abnormally high ‘dumb luck’ stat or modifier?

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                22 days ago

                The previous commenter has left you hanging for 28 minutes so I’ll explain.

                They believe red paint makes their vehicles faster, so it does.

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                    21 days ago

                    Bwahahah, yes it do be like that. 40k is 100% over the top and it also takes itself 100% seriously. Imagine if Michael Bay and Tommy Wiseau made a universe together

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                    Ok I’m still learning but here’s is the lore I know they where engineered this way by another powerful race called the old ones. They were meant to battle the Necron and their gods so they created them as violent self sufficient fungus that spread though spores. The way they access tech is by using a pseudo low level psychic field that trends to accumulate the more orks are involved, as long as others believe in the same thing working. Going to the red paint many orks seen red things go fast so the started believing that the characteristic of being red is what makes them fast. When enough of them do the psychic field nudges reality to make it work. But the trick is first they are not aware of the psychic thing at all we know it as readers but not much more. Even the other races barely know what’s the deal with them, we humans have stolen artifacts from them and they stopped working on our hands. And the other factor is they have a low level creativity and intelligence; everything they believe It gotta start somehwere so logic apllies to the ones who started or is something it has been observed by many, like how they make their version of titans they just saw a big robot and they wanted one.
                    There’s a final factor which makes all this understandably harder to get. Warhammer is a franchise that has been aroung since 1983 with many writers involved in its lore, making parts of it a decade spanning broken phone.

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                    Green is best because Orks are green. Yellow means more which translates to bigger explosions or wealth. Blue is lucky. Purple is sneaky. White is extra killy, usually used for melee weapons. Black is tougher.

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                    I think red is the only colour they believe has an my significance. You’d have to ask an Ork to be sure.

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      21 days ago

      In case its not clear from “football hooligans with cockney accents,” WAGH (also spelled WAH) is just the sound or an ork screaming WAR!