I am torn. Lemmy feels slimmer and easier to use with a wider variety of apps. Kbin has an advantage of being an “all-in-one” solution for the Fediverse with a better UI.

That said I use Mastodon for microblogging, so Kbin having that built in only clutters the site in my particular use case. While Kbin has a better UI it’s also more drab in color and harder to navigate. Kbin also has this karma/points system which feels odd. It skews into the negative VERY easily and is displayed on your profile. I prefer Lemmy’s upvote/downvote system but doesn’t have a permanent karma/points system.

I’ve been reading Lemmy is growing much faster than Kbin, but then I hear that “it’s all bots” and not real growth.

Where do you stand on this? Where do you think you’ll find yourself when this all shakes out?

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    I tried lemmy, I’ve been lectured about “orientalism”, Zelensky was constantly trashed talked about. Enough is enough…I left lemmy for kbin.

    It’s not about the technology, it’s about the community. I prefer to restart from scratch on kbin.

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      So what? Are your beliefs so fragile that you can’t risk them being challenged?

      I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored. Apparently I’m in the minority on that one.

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        So what? Are your beliefs so fragile that you can’t risk them being challenged?

        I debate all the time, but I won’t do it under their moderation.

        I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored.

        Nonono…See what you wrote on lemmyworld:

        If you are so fragile that you need to be protected from a troll then maybe the internet is not the right place for you.

        It’s a different ballpark than what you are presenting here. Here you are all polished, in favor of freedom of speech, but on lemmy you are in defense of trolling. It’s “lemmyworld”, ladies and gentlemen, it’s not lemmy.ml level yet.

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        I prefer a community where everyone is free to say what they want without risk of being censored.

        Do you, actually? If you joined a book club in the real world, for instance, and everyone around you was constantly going on about the Jewish problem and why slavery really wasn’t that bad and why women are useless for anything but housework, would that be a place where you want to spend your time? Would you be a coward with fragile beliefs if you decided to go somewhere else? Would it be horrendous censorship if you wanted rules for basic respect and decorum as generally exist in normal society? If someone followed you around all day constantly challenging every thing you ever said, would you really not find that at least mildly annoying?

        Just because one might not want it to be illegal to state opinions, that doesn’t mean that people can’t appreciate at least some common understanding of a space’s purpose and rules for discourse. Real wold communities almost never allow unlimited speech, because that can get extremely disruptive very quickly. I don’t understand why people think that online spaces must be so radically different.

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      You can see all of those same users on kbin, too, though. You can access those same communities from here on kbin.social.

      It’s really only Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad.ml that have aggressive Chinese apologists on them. There’s a whole pile of Lemmy instances out there that care way, way more about Beehaw than China.

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        I blocked lemmygrad, as I did see those extreme posts, but I haven’t seen any of what is described here in Lemmy.ml.

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        No, it’s not the same content. Lemmy was up way before kbin. And lemmy has slowly built a community parallel to reddit. There can be new instances of lemmy, but you can be certain that they brought in all the old guard of other lemmy instances lemmy. kbin? Probably not so much. kbin mostly brought in the old guard of reddit.

        It’s not the same people posting and commenting the article. The protocol is the same though. I can clearly see the difference anyway.

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          Don’t really know how kbin works. Is it one single instance? Anyhow it definitely is the same content to some degree because we are talking with each other right now.