I’m aware of the NCIS scenes, what else you guys got?
Recently, I’ve been mindful of how long fights are in movies.
Sword fight? Fanning at each other, crossing and smacking swords. Maybe even walking around each other. I don’t think that’s how a real sword fight would look.
Fights where it’s mostly talking. Talking and talking. Nobody would fight like that.
Fist fights without a smack and dead. It’s fancy movement - only because of the shaky camera and cuts of course. Give me back Jackie Chan or smack them once and they fall over.
I also dislike noticing the wire-guided movements. Fast acceleration and you can see them balancing in the air lifted by wires. Wires removed after-the-fact, but it’s such unnatural movement.
And of course, the classic gunfight where nobody hits anything.
Or any monster chase or fight. If a giant monster chases you it’s faster and instant-kills you. But not in movies.
It’s certainly prevalent.
The Iron fist show had me livid when the MC gets “voted” out by the board of the company the MC OWNS A MAJORITY OF!!
I love scenes where a character hotwires a car by:
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reaching under the steering wheel and pulling a panel off. It isn’t held on by fasteners or anything, it’s just like wedged in place.
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A bunch of loosely coiled wires tumbles out. In front are two thicker wires that are cut, stripped and tinned.
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The character strikes these two wires against each other like attempting to strike a match, mostly to make sparks.
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The sound of a car engine turning over plays.
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Climb in, shut the door, put it in gear and drive off.
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CPR. Doing 2-3 chest compressions, seconds apart, and then some mouth to mouth, followed by 2-3 more chest compressions. Or the needle into the heart thing. Or the shock a flatline thing. All of it. It’s just all wrong.
On Andromeda? I believe it was, a villain used the stereotypical twist the head to break the neck and they fall over dead bit. The character proceeded to be not dead and did the stereotypical express their love while dying in the protagonist’s arms bit, talking and moving their neck as if it wasn’t broken. And then died.
Two people are fighting and one gets control of the other. He then throws the person across the room instead of killing him.
“We got their hard drive!” *Holds up a power supply.
And even if it was a hard drive, what were you going to do with it? You went in there guns blazing with no warrant after you knocked on the wrong door. The evidentiary chain is well and truly broken at this point. Nothing from that scene would be able to be entered into evidence.
I don’t have a particular scene, but a here’s a funny conversation I had with an acquaintance:
Huh, this thing takes just 12 volts. Could run it in a car.
Wait, a car’s electricals are just 12 volts?
Yeah. The battery and most wiring around a car is 12 volts.
Wait… then what about those scenes in movies where they torture people with car batteries?
Yeah, those are fake.
looking into the distance as the realization dawns on him Those movie directors deserve jail time.
That was actaully a brick joke in the first episode of Archer. Here’s the first part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahObgDYU58E
Basically every moment of this unintentionally hilarious show.
I laughed constantly.
It helps to know archaeology, but it’s so bad it’s good even if you don’t.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonekickers
In the first episode they find that the True Cross that crucified Jesus is in Britain and at the end they just kind of let it get burned up in a fire when they could have easily removed it from the fire.
The Dark Knight trilogy really wanted to be a realistic, grounded take on the Batman mythos, so they dropped the more fantastical elements of some characters’ backstories. Ra’s Al Ghul was no longer immortal, Bane didn’t have super steroids, the Joker wasn’t permanently bleached by chemicals…then there’s Two-Face.
I guess they thought acid burns were too unrealistic, so they gave him regular burns…apparently without knowing that burns that severe would be so painful that he wouldn’t even be able to remain conscious, much less run around the city on a killing spree. I mean, you can see exposed muscle in some places. There’s a line where Gordon says he’s rejecting skin grafts, and I remember thinking, “WTF are you talking about? He should be in a medically induced coma, not making healthcare decisions.” Half of his body was an open wound; I’m amazed he didn’t die of infection 15 minutes after he left the hospital.
That always killed me! Like… bro, a soft breeze should take him out. He’s not ready to be a villain, he’s ready to spend 5+ years in rehab.
It always bothered me that two-face has no pronunciation problems with only half a pair of lips
This might be the only time we’ll see somebody complain that somebody is speaking too clearly in a Chris Nolan movie.
I read this as “No Pronoun Problems” and was like, dayyum, Two Face got my vote. Hell yeah de-gender those bathrooms in the Two-Face Goon cave.
Thoo Faith
They also bankrupted Bruce through theft.
He could also talk normally despite half of his lips being gone.
The Nolan movies always cared more about giving the appearance of realism by making everything dull and monotone than actually being realistic.
The pseudo-realism in those batman movies and comic book movies in general is a huge part of why I detest them. It’s like an uncanny gap or something. Comic book characters are inherently ridiculous and absurd so I can’t take them seriously. They ask me to suspend too much disbelief.
One specific example from the batman movies is at the end of one of them, I forget which, I think a few hundred cops charge a bunch of guys with machine guns or something? And I remember thinking in the theater they are about to get mowed down World War I style. But somehow they win, they all live, and the streets aren’t flowing with a river of blood. You want me to take them seriously, while having absurd characters and situations, and then you put them in situations where they absolutely should be massacred…I just…I’m out…
First time I saw the Jurassic park I thought no way would intelligent people just run around a huge and therefore dangerous Brachiosaurus or jump out of the car and run right to the ill Triceratops. That would be Darwin’s award kind of madness.
Then I studied biology, got to know some zoologists and paleontologists, and yeah, this is exactly what would happen.
So what you’re saying is, Prometheus was realistic?
Space Flight.
I walked in on my roommate watching “Don’t Look Up” right during the space shuttle launch scene. Literally every single thing was wrong. The trajectory the shuttle took off the launch pad. It flying RIGHT SIDE UP as it did the gravity turn like a fucking airplane. The fact 50 other rockets were in formation with it despite that being stupidly dangerous, them all having different TWR ratios, there not being nearly enough launchpads anywhere in the world to do that, etc. Just everything.
We have existing video footage of shuttle launches. It’s not some crazy mystery. This isn’t Gravity where they add a window that doesn’t exist on the ISS for dramatic tension. It’s not Star Wars where the X-Wings behave more like airplanes than spacecraft for visual appeal. This was deliberate negligence.
A very common one is spacecraft seem to always launch in a direct line away from the planet. They just go straight up. That’s the least efficient way to get into space. But I usually let it slide because explaining orbital mechanics and Hoffman transfers isn’t necessary for good story telling.
Star Wars where the X-Wings behave more like airplanes than spacecraft
My favorite part of Empire Strikes Back was when Luke takes his (presumably) short-range interceptor X-Wing and flies it to another star system to hang with Yoda. I dunno, maybe canon explained this one somewhere (was Yoda’s planet in the same star system as Hoth or something? are X-Wings capable of FTL travel for no reason?).
are X-Wings capable of FTL travel for no reason?
Heh, that’s actually the canon reason. Whereas TIE Fighters would launch from star destroyers like aircraft from a carrier, X-Wings would jump into hyperspace along with the frigates they were escorting.
The X-Wing is explicitly hyperdrive equipped. That’s also part of why it has an astromech droid seat in it (R2), apparently so the droid can handle the jump calculations. A lot of later technobabble in the expanded universe expounded on this after the fact, but I presume this decision was made on a snap basis specifically so Luke could go to Dagobah in his cool
planespaceship.You get to make hyperspace jumps yourself in your X-Wing a few times, fittingly, in the X-Wing games.
Star Wars had basically no concept of fuel until like, one of the recent movies I didn’t watch. Obi-Wan calls a TIE fighter “a short range fighter” in A New Hope. Luke flies an X-Wing all over creation; several are shown jumping to hyperdrive alongside other larger ships in Jedi, it’s established that X-Wings are FTL capable.
Back when they made the first movie they literally used WW2 fighter footage to design the final battle with the Death Star.
Anyone who hasn’t done a Mun landing shouldn’t get to direct space scenes.
You typing “TWR ratio”.
Go KYS yourself!!
/s 😂
When someone’s falling hundreds of feet and when they’re inches from the ground a super hero swoops in from the side to grab them.
Sure, they didn’t hit the ground but not only did you catching them slow down their vertical velocity just as fast as the ground would have, now you’ve accelerated them horizontally so fast that they’re now twice as dead as they would’ve been otherwise
And then there is specifically the night Gwen Stacy died.
twice as dead
That’s like even worse than being dead!
My head canon, at least with Superman, is his powers. He doesn’t have multiple unrelated powers, but only 1 main one. Instinctive momentum control.
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Flying - Momentum control
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Bullet proof - Momentum stopped at the point of contact.
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Heat beams - Changing the momentum of particles he’s focused on.
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Holding a plane by a thin aluminium sheet - Adjusting the momentum of the plane directly.
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No sonic booms, or massive wind - momentum nulling on the nearby air.
In this case, catching a falling person safely makes complete sense. He just nullifies their momentum before they hit.
I guess you could explain it like that, but I’d really prefer it if they just started writing Superman stories with a more realistic depiction of the world around Superman in mind. It would add more drama since, while Superman himself is invulnerable, the rest of the world isn’t, so Supes should have to be extremely careful with how he uses his powers if he’s actually going to save anyone.
Superman himself is invulnerable, the rest of the world isn’t
Go watch The Boys!
“I live in a world made of cardboard, except for Lois’ bones and ligaments.”
while Superman himself is invulnerable, the rest of the world isn’t
Larry Niven wrote a great essay many years ago about the physical realities of being Superman. My favorite bit was about how him having sex with Lois Lane would have resulted in her head being blown off.
You lazy b##stard!
[jk, enjoy!]
https://temp.larryniven.net/?q=man-of-steel-woman-of-kleenex-by-larry-niven
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Similarly- when a person is hanging off a building or cliff by one arm, and holding something heavy or another person with the other. It requires an INSANE amount of strength to hold that position, let alone actually haul them back up.
Every once in a while, it’s subverted. IIRC, that’s how Gwen dies in Spiderman comics.
I appreciated The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for that reason. Gwen was falling so fast that when she was caught I honestly thought her neck snapped and I didn’t notice her skull hitting the floor
In the original comic her neck was broken, and it’s not clear if it’s due to Spiderman’s failure at grasping physics or if the Green Goblin had already killed her before chucking her corpse off the bridge, but Peter Parker blames himself for it anyway.
A proper way to handle this would be the hero catching them and then immediately rolling a ton of times while still in the air, turning the downward velocity into angular velocity and gradually reducing the momentum. The person may still pass out from the g forces, but they won’t be a pancake.
Another way that works is just to catch them on a downward tangent to their current fall trajectory, but rapidly slowing down and then turning back up. It means your scenario has to have enough vertical space to perform this maneuver, but not necessarily a lot–even a very small downward deceleration will turn death into bruises, because it’s like falling into padding.
Wait how exactly does rolling help? I can understand catching the victim sooner to accelerate upwards over a longer time period.
Catching and rolling is physically similar to landing on a curved vertical ramp and sliding down it. The motion is not altogether stopped but instead redirected. Rolling is like hitting a tiny tiny ramp so your velocity is redirected at a very high rate, but it’s still better than just instantaneously stopping
No offense but why do you think it works that way at all?
The way I’m imagining it:
Hero swoops in, matches velocity, grabs person, immediately starts spinning with them and slowing down, thus converting their downward momentum into centripetal momentum?
Only the “speed force” or maybe Pym Particles can counteract inertia like that
We just watched “The Trap” last night. There was a major pop concert that ended in time for family dinner time during daylight. In the concert, they were depicted having time to make multiple trips to the merch tables and concessions, and in one of those trips, they talked like it was an intermission to change the stage set between songs.
Plot twist= It started at 8PM and ended at 3 pm.
Kingsman
Training scene where they shove a shower hose down a toilet and use it to breathe…
There would be no air (or even sewer gas) to breath in that case. Toilets work by raising the water level in the bowl above the water level in the S-bend/siphon. Since the room was full of water, those toilets would have been flushing constantly, and the whole pipe would be full of water.
Better(ish) solution. Use the body bags that they each had to fill out and place in their trunk/locker to capture an air bubble. That would at least give you some time to attack the door, or figure out how to drain the room.
Maybe the constantly flushing toilet would drain the room.
Must be filling faster than it’s draining, otherwise it never would fill up.
It was enough water to fill that room in a few minutes, I’d say a few toilets and shower drains would be a negligible effect. Although one the water got a few feet over the bowl, or other drain, I’d stay the fuck away from them because of potential delta-P situations.
There’s a scene in Spider-Man: No Way Home where Tom Holland is fighting the Green Goblin. Goblin grabs Spidey, jumps with him, and then they both smash through the 23rd or so floor of the apartment building they’re in and they land on the floor below.
Sure, they’re both super strong but neither of them used their strength to push through the floor. They just jumped and reached no more than like a foot off the floor, implying that gravity pulled them both through the floor. Okay, so the floor was built poorly, but then why did falling 10+ feet from the 23rd floor to the 22nd floor not make them smash through the 22nd floor?
That movie’s a lot of a fun but that scene makes me upset lol
